Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Walter Landry wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? >>> Looking at google I see a lot of "Summary - non-free" and "Not really >>> non-free"

Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? debian-legal is just a mailing list, so it cannot have a position about anything. My position is that the MPL does not violate the DFSG, but it's not obvious if Debian can satisfy the requirement of distributing non-current sou

Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Walter Landry
Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter Landry wrote: > > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL > >> PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? > >>> Looking at google I see a l

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can give you a simple example, however, of a case where > > [with caveats] word format is suitable: some drawings could > > be saved in some word format if the version of word in question is > > widely available, > > Why does it matter whet

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: > > If we're going to go into the exact quote game: > > > >You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the > >reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute. > [...]

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 3/26/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On 3/25/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The copying to the DRM-controlled media seems expressly > > > > > p

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:21:07 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Could you please phrase what you would consider an accurate (non > > misleading) credit? > > "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian kernel team and others" I'm really losing you here... :-( You are

The LGPL's GPL upgrade clause and "or later"

2006-03-27 Thread Josh Triplett
Useful piece of information for those concerned about using open-ended "or later" licensing on their software: the "upgrade clause" in the LGPL2.1, clause 3, allows the use of GPL version 2 or later: > 3. You may opt to apply the terms of the ordinary GNU General Public > License instead of this

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: > I find it hard to believe that this license has any relevance in the > context of non-copyright issues (issues of use which have not been > specifically enumerated by either copyright law or the license). That's an open question, and necessarily jurisdicti

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 3/26/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > > The subject of this sentence is you. > > > > > > The subject of this sentence is not "technical measures". > > > > The object of "use" is "technical measures to obstruct o

Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Ed Hill
Hi folks, I'm an occasional Debian user and, while doing package reviews for Fedora Extras, stumbled into the Eterm mix-of-source-licenses situation described below. The following email was sent to the Debian Eterm maintainer. I'm forwarding it to this list because I've not (yet) received a res

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Poole
Ed Hill writes: > Hi folks, > > I'm an occasional Debian user and, while doing package reviews for > Fedora Extras, stumbled into the Eterm mix-of-source-licenses situation > described below. > > The following email was sent to the Debian Eterm maintainer. I'm > forwarding it to this list becau

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Ed Hill
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 23:10 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > This kind of licensing conflict is a release-critical bug in the > package under Debian Policy. The ideal solution for Debian is exactly > what you suggested in the bug comments: work with the upstream > maintainer to sort out license incom

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 12:18:37AM -0500, Ed Hill wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 23:10 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > > This kind of licensing conflict is a release-critical bug in the > > package under Debian Policy. The ideal solution for Debian is exactly > > what you suggested in the bug commen

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Poole
Ed Hill writes: > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 23:10 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > > This kind of licensing conflict is a release-critical bug in the > > package under Debian Policy. The ideal solution for Debian is exactly > > what you suggested in the bug comments: work with the upstream > > maintaine

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Frank Küster
Ed Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm asking because the main upstream author (Michael Jennings) seems to >> think that the Fedora Guidelines (which are in some ways quite similar >> to the much-older DSC) are "silly rules which discriminate against >> packages for no real reason": >> >> ht