Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Daniel! You wrote: > >This is also the easiest way to deal with your case - have copies of > >the source on hand, and give them to anybody who asks for them > >(charging extra for the extra media). Most people probably won't > >ask. > > How about having the source code on a PC ready, and if a

Copyright infringement of debian's logo

2006-01-12 Thread jeremiah foster
Hello, This link[0] shows a web site using a slightly modified version of the debian open license logo. The modification is that the logo is blue. Does this constitute a violation of debian's copyright and does debian care? [0] http://www.elektrostore.se/main.asp Jeremiah

Re: Copyright infringement of debian's logo

2006-01-12 Thread Damyan Ivanov
jeremiah foster wrote: > This link[0] shows a web site using a slightly modified version of the > debian open license logo. The modification is that the logo is blue. > Does this constitute a violation of debian's copyright and does debian > care? This comes to this list every now and then. See th

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: How about having the source code on a PC ready, and if anyone asks, I charge for the media and burn the CDs? So I just have to bring some CDRs and I know they won't go to waste. Sure, that should be ok. My friends and I decided we'll do that. We'll have a couple of lapt

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Daniel Carrera wrote: > My friends and I decided we'll do that. We'll have a couple of laptops > with the sources, and a sign next to the CDs that says "If you want the > sources for this CD, ask us, and we'll burn you a CD for $2". I would be interested to hear afterwards how many people actual

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Daniel Carrera wrote: My friends and I decided we'll do that. We'll have a couple of laptops with the sources, and a sign next to the CDs that says "If you want the sources for this CD, ask us, and we'll burn you a CD for $2". I would be interested to hear afterwards

Re: libecw

2006-01-12 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > I'm not sure if it's license ( > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=293346 ) can be considered > free enough to be in main: FYI, the right place to ask this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moving it over there. Full-quoting because of this. Summary: I don't believe this is

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Carrera wrote: > > My friends and I decided we'll do that. We'll have a couple of laptops > > with the sources, and a sign next to the CDs that says "If you want the > > sources for this CD, ask us, and we'll burn you a CD for $2". >

Re: libecw

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Use of the ECW SDK with Unlimited Decompressing and Unlimited Compression > > for > > applications licensed under a GNU General Public style license ("GPL") is > > governed by the "ECW SDK PUBLIC USE LICENSE AGREEMENT". > > Not su

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 02:34:39AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > Alexander> > Alexander> Well, I'm in the DE. But in both UK and DE *the Rome Convention on > Alexander> on the law applicable to contractual obligations* governs its > interpr

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Daniel Carrera said on Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:06:52PM +,: > Michael Poole wrote: > >As GPL section 3(c) indicates, you may use that option if you were > >given a written offer to provide source *and* your distribution is > >"noncommercial". You have given no hint whether your distributio

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Download the binary and the *corresponding* source code. While > distributing only the binary. put on the CD, a file saying that the > source code to every binary on the CD is available from you to the > person you gave th

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Poole
Alexander Terekhov writes: > On 1/12/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Download the binary and the *corresponding* source code. While > > distributing only the binary. put on the CD, a file saying that the > > source code to every binary on the CD is available

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 12 Jan 2006 11:53:56 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > On 1/12/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > Download the binary and the *corresponding* source code. While > > > distributing only the binary. put on the CD,

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Poole
Alexander Terekhov writes: > On 12 Jan 2006 11:53:56 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > > > On 1/12/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Download the binary and the *corresponding* source code. While > > > > dist

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 12 Jan 2006 12:32:41 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > On 12 Jan 2006 11:53:56 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > > > > > On 1/12/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [...] > > >

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Alexander Terekhov wrote: That's because your suggested process is not what I suggest to Carrera. Yeah, I know that it's close to impossible for a GNUtian to grok "first sale". By your logic... I stole something once, I didn't get caught, therefore theft is not illegal. Cheers, Daniel. --

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12 Jan 2006 12:32:41 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > > > On 12 Jan 2006 11:53:56 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > > > > > > > > O

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > That's because your suggested process is not what I suggest to Carrera. > > > > Yeah, I know that it's close to impossible for a GNUtian to grok "first > > sale". > > By your logic... I stole something once, I di

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 12 Jan 2006 11:53:56 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > 1) Buy a copy of relatively pricey commercial software. Download some FSF's perl like emacs. > > 2) Buy a computer without that piece of software on it. Check. > > 3) Install the software on that computer, since you

asterisk-prompt-es package and Common Creatives License

2006-01-12 Thread Victor Seva Lopez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I´m trying to create a package [0] that has been licensed by Common Creative Deeds 2.5 [1]. Would you be as kind as to tell me if this license is compatible with DFSG? Thank you for your help. Best regards, Victor Seva [0] http://bugs.debian.

Common Creative Deeds 2.5

2006-01-12 Thread Victor Seva Lopez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I´m trying to create a package [0] that has been licensed by Common Creative Deeds 2.5 [1]. Would you be as kind as to tell me if this license is compatible with DFSG? Thank you for your help. Best regards, Victor Seva [0] http://bugs.debian.

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/12/06, Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Universe won't collapse as a result, believe me. Isaac got it: - Further, my understanding is that Alexander was proposing lawfully acquiring and distributing copies and not making new copies. If the law requires that a backup

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Raul Miller
On 1/11/06, Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, that's close (hint: googly-googly covenant). But according > to the FSF, the GPL is not a contract. I think you've misunderstood "the GPL is not a contract" as meaning that there are no obligations associated with re-distributing GPL

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-01-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:35:52PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no idea why -legal isn't in the loop, but I figured if I gave y'all a > > heads up, you would be soon enough. > > Because it's -legal's job to interpret licenses, not the DF

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-01-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, if not d-legal, then at least d-project. Indeed - I think discussion what what the DFSG /should/ mean (such as whether source code is required for certain items) is a project wide decision rather than a legal one. (The thread in question is o

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:06:44AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > That said, if not d-legal, then at least d-project. > > Indeed - I think discussion what what the DFSG /should/ mean (such as > whether source code is required for certain items) is a project wide > decision rather than a legal o

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-01-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:06:44AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Indeed - I think discussion what what the DFSG /should/ mean (such as >> whether source code is required for certain items) is a project wide >> decision rather than a legal one. > > An

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 02:08:22AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > No matter how much you try to set them up in opposition to each other, > > the Debian mailing lists are divided by *topic*, nothing more. Matters > > relating to the DFSG are quite clearly on-topic for -legal, rather > > than one

Re: Distributing GPL software.

2006-01-12 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Alexander Terekhov said on Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:27:27PM +0100,: > And I'm still not in prison. How come? 1. You have some kind of understanding with the copyright holder of the program in question. 2. You have not been prosecuted != you have not broken the law. -- Mahesh T. Pai Di