Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
It's not all that unusual for conferences to require that the material submitted for the conference be licensed in a specific manner; if you plan on presenting, some DFSG free license of the material you present should be expected so portions of the work can be utilized in main or otherwise distrib

Re: sword-text-kjv - King James Version and Royal Letters Patent

2005-11-11 Thread MJ Ray
Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/05/msg00108.html > > I don't see a conclusive answer in that discussion; only doubt and > "didn't find any proof that this restriction still holds". I'd prefer > if we could find a specific abrogation of the rest

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:26:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Why fight at all? If having a free license is so obviously correct, why > force people to do it? If some people are uncomfortable with it, why > fight that? Even within Debian, it's become clear to me that, if we want DFSG-free thing

Re: KJV Bible - Crown Copyright in UK [was: Bug#338077: ITP: sword-text-kvj -- King James Version with Strongs Numbers and Morphology]

2005-11-11 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On 11/8/05, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 06:03:45PM +, W. Borgert wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 06:16:52PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > >> This makes the KJV of the bible non-free in GB and probably even > >> illegal to distribute at all i

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Re: Custom license question (Glk libraries)

2005-11-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Niko Tyni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fine. So, as I understand, the only possible problem is documentation, since the license doesn't explicitly give permission to modify it or distribute modified versions. It's only speaking of 'the code'. All the documentat

Re: KJV Bible - Crown Copyright in UK [was: Bug#338077: ITP: sword-text-kvj -- King James Version with Strongs Numbers and Morphology]

2005-11-11 Thread Andrew Donnellan
> And your argument is flawed. God himself didn't directly author any > part of the Bible at all. ;-) According to Christian doctrine, God > *inspired* various people to write the *entire Bible*. According to > Jewish doctrine, the same holds true for the Torah. > > The KJV of the Bible was orig

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:26:58 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 07:49:36PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > FYI, a possible response might be: "we care about freeness, but we > > pick our battle, and our battle is Debian main". I care about > > starving children, but I don't dona

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 08:00:55AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:26:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Why fight at all? If having a free license is so obviously correct, why > > force people to do it? If some people are uncomfortable with it, why > > fight that? > Even

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:49:21AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > It's not all that unusual for conferences to require that the material > submitted for the conference be licensed in a specific manner; OTOH, conferences usually ask for the minimal permission they actually need to do their job. >

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:49:21AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > It's not all that unusual for conferences to require that the material > > submitted for the conference be licensed in a specific manner; > > OTOH, conferences usually ask for the minima

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:46:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Of course, within Debian DFSG-freeness isn't mandatory or enforced: you > can upload to non-free instead of main just by tweaking your control file. The response is predictable, but here it is anyway: non-free isn't within Debian; De

legality of distributing logos

2005-11-11 Thread Josh Metzler
I am working on the packaging of the kdeadmin module of kde 3.5, and it contains a new application, knetworkconf. This application has backends for 15 different gnu/linux and bsd distributions, and it contains 20x20 pixel logos of each of them. By default, the built package includes all the i

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:26:52 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:49:21AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: >> [If this poses a problem,[1] you always have the option of not >> presenting, or presenting your work in an informal session.] > *sigh* > Does this really have to devolv

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:26:58 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 07:49:36PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: >> FYI, a possible response might be: "we care about freeness, but we >> pick our battle, and our battle is Debian main". I care about >> starving children, but I don't dona

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 08:00:55AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:26:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > Why fight at all? If having a free license is so obviously >> > correct, why force people to do it? If