Re: flowc license

2005-02-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco Poli: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:17:24 -0700 Joel Aelwyn wrote: > >> But in my experience, when >> contacting authors, a great many of them simply copied boilerplate >> from an old BSD license, and if you discuss with them the rationale >> given by the University of California when they >

Re: flowc license

2005-02-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joel Aelwyn: > 4) The DFSG tradition is muddy (at best) on whether it refers to the > 4-clause or 3-clause variant of the license - It's pretty clear: The DFSG are older than the wide-spread adoption of the 3-clause BSD license. Until UC Berkeley relicensed the Berkeley Software Distribution u

Re: Making legal issues as short as possible

2005-02-12 Thread OSS
Harald Geyer wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:20:42PM +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: "Copyright 2005 by XYZ. The copyright holder hereby grants permission to everyone, forever, to do anything with this work which would otherwise be restricted by his exclusive lega

Re: flowc license

2005-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 04:38:18PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Francesco Poli: > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:17:24 -0700 Joel Aelwyn wrote: > > > >> But in my experience, when > >> contacting authors, a great many of them simply copied boilerplate > >> from an old BSD license, and if you discus

Re: Making legal issues as short as possible

2005-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:44:32PM +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: > I don't see anything in our message that is not specific to my > original wording. Probably you can give me a pointer, why this > "enhanced version" is still poor. > > Especially I don't see why a liberal and short license is a disfav

Re: flowc license

2005-02-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * Francesco Poli: >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:17:24 -0700 Joel Aelwyn wrote: >>> discuss with them the rationale given by the University of >>> California when they mass-retroactively-relicensed from the >>> 4-clause to 3-clause license, >> Could you ple

Re: Making legal issues as short as possible

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Hornford
Harald Geyer wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:20:42PM +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: "Copyright 2005 by XYZ. The copyright holder hereby grants permission to everyone, forever, to do anything with this work which would otherwise be restricted by his exclusive lega

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt]

2005-02-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The fact that he's even presenting this tired old argument means that > either nobody is competently presenting the arguments for freeing of > standards documents, or the arguments aren't being heard ... Agreed. If someone from the Debian community has

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt]

2005-02-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The fact that he's even presenting this tired old argument means that >> either nobody is competently presenting the arguments for freeing of >> standards documents, or the arguments aren't being heard ... > > Thank y

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt]

2005-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:29:26AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > The fact that he's even presenting this tired old argument means that > > either nobody is competently presenting the arguments for freeing of > > standards documents, or the arguments aren't being heard ... > > Agreed. If someo