Re: Why is choice of venue non-free ?

2005-02-10 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 07 February 2005 02:58, Henning Makholm wrote: > I've often wondered which part of the DFSG supports the notion that > the right to create modified versions must be available even to people > who don't want to pay money to the author to have that right. Perhaps because the guidelines are

Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Josh King
Hi, I searched Google and the archives for this, but never found a solid answer. I, along with a few others, would like to start a website using the Debian name in the domain (we're using DotDebian.org as a working name for right now). The goal/intent of the site is to provide new user friendly

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:04:08 -0600, Josh King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The goal/intent of the site is to provide new user friendly forums This part sounds like unnecessary duplication of effort. There are already a great many such forums in existence, not least http://forums.debian.net. What

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Josh King
Andrew Saunders wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:04:08 -0600, Josh King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The goal/intent of the site is to provide new user friendly forums This part sounds like unnecessary duplication of effort. There are already a great many such forums in existence, not least http://foru

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Re: Making legal issues as short as possible

2005-02-10 Thread Harald Geyer
> >Hi! > > > >Would a software with the following statement and without any further > >copyright or licensing notice be free? > > No. > >"Copyright 2005 by XYZ. No rights reserved." > > > >Any issues with that? > Copyright law requires *explicit* permission in order to do a whole bunch of > thing

Re: Making legal issues as short as possible

2005-02-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:20:42PM +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: > > "Copyright 2005 by XYZ. The copyright holder hereby grants permission to > > everyone, forever, to do anything with this work which would otherwise be > > restricted by his exclusive legal rights." > > This is sufficiently short,

Re: flowc license

2005-02-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:17:24 -0700 Joel Aelwyn wrote: > But in my experience, when > contacting authors, a great many of them simply copied boilerplate > from an old BSD license, and if you discuss with them the rationale > given by the University of California when they > mass-retroactively-relice

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] in light of the disagreements > between Debian and the FSF over what constitutes a Free license (the > GNU "Free" Documentation License being one prominent example[1]). That's not the disagreement, as far as I can tell. I know we're lazy, but "fre

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread MJ Ray
Josh King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there another license then that should be used in place of the GFDL? > Creative Commons? Something else? I think the usual advice is for simple contributions to be licensed under a permissive non-copyleft (like MIT/X11) and full manuals to be put under th

Re: Why is choice of venue non-free ?

2005-02-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Monday 07 February 2005 02:58, Henning Makholm wrote: >> I've often wondered which part of the DFSG supports the notion that >> the right to create modified versions must be available even to people >> who don't want to pay money to the author to hav

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:51:45 -0600, Josh King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, our plan calls for more of a "portal" style setup. The forums > would be one part of several other areas (i.e. the usuals of news, > graphics/dekstop backgrounds, etc.). Additional features and areas will > be added

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-02-10 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 01 Feb 2005 17:17:41 GMT, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This modified version has been approved of by at least one list > > member[2]. > > I don't remember much about Michael K Edwards except he's currently > MIA from the New Maintainer queue

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:20:20 -0800 (PST), MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] in light of the disagreements > > between Debian and the FSF over what constitutes a Free license (the > > GNU "Free" Documentation License being one prominent example[

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:38:07AM +, Andrew Saunders wrote: > I likewise believe that documentation is a subset of software, but the > interminable debates on the topic convinced me that GR 2004-03's > approach to resolving the ambiguity is the correct one - e.g. changing > "1. Debian Will Rem