Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Måns Rullgård
Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Måns Rullgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > What if there was a package wget++ that communicated with openssl >> > entirely through system() or exec() calls? It would construct >> > appropriate input and pa

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 09:58:00AM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: > Interpreters are a different issue from the exec() situation. The > program being interpreted generally does not communicate with the > interpreter at all. If the interpreted program and the interpreter can't communicate, then usual

Re: Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-22 Thread Andres Baravalle
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:30:33 +, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:28:35PM +, Andres Baravalle wrote: > > First off, irrespective of legality and morality, does Debian need > another comic downloader in t

Re: Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:50:58PM +, Andres Baravalle wrote: > I suppose that it would mean excluding *all* the syndicated comics > (dilbert, calvin and hobbes etc.). They cover 2/3 of the comics. > They will not give me an explicit permission, but I'd like to know if > I'm doing anything wr

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Måns Rullgård
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 09:58:00AM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: >> Interpreters are a different issue from the exec() situation. The >> program being interpreted generally does not communicate with the >> interpreter at all. > > If the interpreted program

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 04:15:58PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: > The interpreted program interacts (I don't think "communicate" is the > appropriate word) with the virtual machine (in a loose sense of the > word) presented by the interpreter. It does not communicate with the > actual implementatio

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-22 Thread MJ Ray
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [MJR sceptical that this sort of branding bug gets fixed quickly] > To be honest (and I wrote the code in Bugzilla which does the > reporting), that's more to prevent anonymous DOS, because they are very > processor intensive. If you want to see them a

Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

2005-01-22 Thread MJ Ray
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Do you really want to argue that software under licences which try to > >affect other pieces of unrelated software meets the DFSG? > Yes, because I do not believe that it is a "restriction on other > software". A licence esse

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Walter Landry
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter Landry writes: > > > Debian adds in all of the debian-specific control files, including man > > pages. Even if you discount that, Debian reserves the right to modify > > Kaffe at will. > > Debian-created man pages, or any other modifications of K

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-22 Thread Raul Miller
> Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eclipse is, similarly, not a derivative of Kaffe and by itself is > > not subject to the GPL. On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 11:07:37PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote: > The key word is "by itself". There is no problem with Eclipse being > distributed alone. T

Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-22 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 10:19:39PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Do you really want to argue that software under licences which try to > > >affect other pieces of unrelated software meets the DFSG? > > Yes, because I do not bel