Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040915 19:31]: > > An elementary point of Free Software is to protect the rights of the > > users, not excluding "bad" ones. (Or will GPL3 have a section > > termination the licence if you breach any FSF copyright?) > > RMS is quoted as saying "Misusing a GPL

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Matthew Garrett
Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040915 19:31]: >> RMS is quoted as saying "Misusing a GPL-covered program permanently >> forfeits the right to distribute the code at all", which implies that >> the GPL doesn't protect the rights of people who hav

Re: most liberal license

2004-09-16 Thread Harald Geyer
If we need to discuss MIT-License in length, there probably should be a new thread about this. However I'm still looking forward to recieve answers to my initial question. > > It says you have to include the permission notice in any "substantial > > portions of the Software" no matter if source or

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:57:49PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Andrew Suffield writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 09:00:39AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > > > Andrew Suffield writes: > > > > > > > Long-standing conclusions, summarised: > > > > > > > > Terminating licenses (copyright, patent

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040915 19:31]: >>> RMS is quoted as saying "Misusing a GPL-covered program permanently >>> forfeits the right to distribute the code at all", which implies that >>> t

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Matthew Garrett
Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. The GPL terminates only for non-compliance, and places no > restrictions beyond those imposed by law. That's free. Attempts to > bargain in a license, to say "I'll give you a license to this stuff, > but only if you give me a license to stuf

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Michael Poole
Brian Thomas Sniffen writes: > I don't see any free way of terminating a license for reasons other than > non-compliance. You are leaving out some important words or conditions here, but I'm not sure what they are -- a copyright-based license can include restrictions that are prohibited by the DF

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 01:43:57PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > I don't see any free way of terminating a license for reasons other than > non-compliance. That's pretty much a tautology. If a license requires that you never brush your teeth, and you brush your teeth, you're not complying

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Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:33:59PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > >>>I don't think many people are seriously advocating that the DFSG only >>>applies to restrictions made under copyright law. >> >>In that thread, several people suggested that a restriction such as "You >>may

Re: NEW ocaml licence proposal by upstream, will be part of the 3.08.1 release going into sarge.

2004-09-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:30:31PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >>Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>BSD license, C has freedom with respec

Re: NEW ocaml licence proposal by upstream, will be part of the 3.08.1 release going into sarge.

2004-09-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 05:18:36PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:30:31PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > >>Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>>On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Sven Luther <[EM

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Re: most liberal license

2004-09-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Harald Geyer wrote: >Joachim Breitner wrote: >>Harald Geyer wrote: >>>Is there some other "as free as public domain" license? I don't like >>>to reinvent the wheel, but I haven't found one yet.\ >> >>I ususally recommend and use the MIT-Licence for that, it essentially >>says the same stuff as you

Re: Open Software License v2.1

2004-09-16 Thread Michael Poole
Andrew Suffield writes: > > By way of example, you have no right to distribute a GPLed work if you > > attempt to charge users for patent licenses related to the work. > > This is not true, nor does it approximate something which is true. 4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute