possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Daniel Kobras
Hi! We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see some more opinions on the following two clauses contained in a couple of source files. scsh-0.6.4/scheme/big/sort.scm: ;;; 2. Users of this software agre

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: > We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within > Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see > some more opinions on the following two clauses contained in a couple of > source files. >

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:55:23AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: > > We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within > > Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see > > some more opinions

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) to return > > ;;;to the T Project at Yale any improvements or extensions that they > > make, > > ;;;so that these may be included in future releases; and (b) to inform > > ;;;th

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: >> We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within >> Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see >> some more opinions on the following two c

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
(I'm the new maintainer of the Debian package of scsh) On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:07:18PM -0700, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: >> ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) to return >> ;;;to the T Project at Yale any improvements or extensions that they >> make, >> ;;;

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
> ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) to return > ;;;to the T Project at Yale any improvements or extensions that they make, > ;;;so that these may be included in future releases; and (b) to inform > ;;;the T Project of noteworthy uses of this software. T

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
> > might want to contact the upstream author (Olin Shivers) who I > > suspect would be willing to get the license changed. > > All parts under Olin Shivers's copyright are already relicensed to BSD > no-ad. The issue remaining are in files that bear another copyright > notice, from another holder

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) > > ;;; to return to the T Project at Yale any improvements or > > ;;; extensions that they make, so that these may be included in > This clause is moot, because "The T Project at

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This clause is moot, because "The T Project at Yale" has not existed > for the last fifteen years. I grabbed the source and looked at it. As Daniel wrote, there are three files with this clause in them. The one that references the T Project implem

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-18 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Nov 17, 2003, at 11:16, John Goerzen wrote: This is only useful if you do not have a valid defense for the problem already. In other words, it is only useful as a strong-arm tactic to let your own company effectively ignore patents of others. After all, if the lawsuit filed against you

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-18 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Nov 17, 2003, at 13:35, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:15:40AM -0800, Ken Arromdee wrote: I'm a software developer. So the services of one may, under some circumstances, cost me nothing at all (except my spare time). I don't think patent lawyers can get cheaper than

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-11-18 19:07:18 + Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: aren't removed, Barak Pearlmutter cannot guarantee that he will not give your phone number to his ex-wife." That should get results. What, no automatic weapons?

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License,

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:48:12PM -0500, Joe Moore wrote: > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=24> > > Thanks. I think the new S5 looks like this: > > 5. Reciprocity. If You institute patent litigation against any > > entity (including a cross-claim or counterclai