[Antonello.Salvatucci@europe.lego.com: [Legousb-devel] Mindstorms SDK license]

2003-06-12 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Hi Antonello, Thanks a lot for your standing involvement with this license issue. I am forwarding your message to the debian-legal mailing list. Summary for the debian-legal folks: the legousb project currently uses a header file taken from the Lego Mindstorms SDK. This file is distributed un

Re: [Antonello.Salvatucci@europe.lego.com: [Legousb-devel] Mindstorms SDK license]

2003-06-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Rafael! You wrote: > (iii) Any end-user applications developed by means of the SDK or parts > hereof shall only be used for purposes that neither directly nor indirectly > have any commercial implications; however, device drivers developed by means > of the SDK or parts hereof may be include

Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
[Originally this was going to be a reply to the Lego Mindstorms SDK question, but it turned into an essay. Oh well. :) ] As Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation has been saying for twenty years or more, the "Free" in "Free Software" refers to freedom, not price. A great deal of F

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Branden said: >Comments? Well, I love it. :-) --Nathanael

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Don, 2003-06-12 um 23.21 schrieb Branden Robinson: > 5) The freedom to retain privacy in one's person, effects, and data, >including, but not limited to, all Works in one's possession and one's >own changes to Works written by others. Isn't that effectively this "lonely island test

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:21:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > 4) The freedom to change the Work for any purpose[1], to distribute >one's changes, and to distribute the Work in modified form. Access >to the form of the work which is preferred for making modifications, >if applicab

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread David B Harris
On 13 Jun 2003 01:15:38 +0200 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5) The freedom to retain privacy in one's person, effects, and data, > >including, but not limited to, all Works in one's possession and one's > >own changes to Works written by others. > > Isn't that effectively

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:21:35 -0500 Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Comments? One thing I don't think that's entirely clear is about the labelling of your changes. The GPL specifies that you must put a notice in a given file detailing the date and nature of the changes. Such may or m

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Fre, 2003-06-13 um 02.10 schrieb Andrew Suffield: > As such, I > think it'd be best to remove the second one outright; the freedom is > already adequetely described by the first. *Any* form which allows you > to modify the work for any purpose, is good enough. Not sure: Technically, for ex

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:10:23 +0100 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:21:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > 4) The freedom to change the Work for any purpose[1], to distribute > >one's changes, and to distribute the Work in modified form. Access > >

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 04:01:54AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Fre, 2003-06-13 um 02.10 schrieb Andrew Suffield: > > As such, I > > think it'd be best to remove the second one outright; the freedom is > > already adequetely described by the first. *Any* form which allows you > > to modify t

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:15:38AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Don, 2003-06-12 um 23.21 schrieb Branden Robinson: > > 5) The freedom to retain privacy in one's person, effects, and data, > >including, but not limited to, all Works in one's possession and one's > >own changes to Work

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 04:01:54AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Not sure: Technically, for example, you can modify a program in any > possible way just by having access to the assembler code that the > compiler generates out of the closed sources, but this would be far too > difficult to be rea

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:10:23AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:21:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > 4) The freedom to change the Work for any purpose[1], to distribute > >one's changes, and to distribute the Work in modified form. Access > >to the form

Re: Proposed: Debian's Five Freedoms for Free Works

2003-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 08:54:17PM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:21:35 -0500 > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comments? > > One thing I don't think that's entirely clear is about the labelling of > your changes. The GPL specifies that you must put a notice