Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Hi folks, as a part of my Application i looked at the mpg123 package and took also a look to mpg321. Inside of this analysis i took a look to the homepage of thompson. There is a pricing list for every decoder that is able to play mp3 files [1]. This means for every decoder program round about 0.

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > as a part of my Application i looked at the mpg123 package and took also > a look to mpg321. Inside of this analysis i took a look to the homepage > of thompson. There is a pricing list for every decoder that is able to > play mp3 fi

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Am Son, 2003-05-11 um 15.49 schrieb Andrew Suffield: > On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > as a part of my Application i looked at the mpg123 package and took also > > a look to mpg321. Inside of this analysis i took a look to the homepage > > of thompson. There is a

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software? (Was: query from Georg Greve of GNU about Debian's opinion of the FDL

2003-05-11 Thread Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Note that the "distortion or mutilation" has to hurt the > > honor or reputation of the author. Here in the Netherlands > > this is the case if the owner of a house decides to put up > > new blinds in a color t

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software?

2003-05-11 Thread Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > As I read the law, it says that there are some rights over the work > which the artist *cannot* renounce. You would have it that if the > artist uses a certain form of license, the rights have been > effectively renounced. If that were a correct interpretation, then

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > > According to the DFSG this makes every mp3 decoder non-free or even > > > undistributable. > > > > It doesn't, actually. Although it might make it non-distributable > > under US law, and some other countries which honour the relevant > > patents. > > As I said above > the decision made s

Re: Questioning the Public Domain'ness of certain data

2003-05-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 01:19:16AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sec. 105. - Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works > > > Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of > > the United States Governm

Re: Questioning the Public Domain'ness of certain data

2003-05-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sec. 105. - Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works > > > Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of > > the United States Government, but the United

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software? (Was: query from Georg Greve of GNU about Debian's opinion of the FDL

2003-05-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > People that pass by the house do not know whether the blinds > were the architect's design or not. They might remember that > the house was designed by him, and then conclude that he was > very stupid for putting those ugly blinds on the hou

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software?

2003-05-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As far as I know, the heirs must follow the author's intentions > when applying the inherited moral right. They cannot decide > for themselves whether *they* like the change, they must guess > whether the now deceased author would have liked

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Patrick Mauritz
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 10:10:44AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > If they actually cared, I suspect xmms and several other groups would have > been contacted by lawyers by now. As Andrew noted, there are also legal > avenues of defense as well. they claim us$ 0.75 per unit or some fix price

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 10:45:44PM +0200, Patrick Mauritz wrote: > after someone mentioned that change about 1 year late on slashdot, The slashdot post was (as one would expect from a slashdot post) bogus; nothing changed. This was discussed here at the time; search the list archives. -- Glenn

Re: Licensing of mp3 decoders

2003-05-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 10:10:44AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > The patent is held in Germany which means there is no safe place to keep the > packages if we decide to (re)move them. Hey, wait, I thought they *lost* that war... Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Gesetz! /me watches as this thread

Re: motion to take action on the unhappy GNU FDL issue

2003-05-11 Thread Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller
Hi Zack, On Sonntag 20 April 2003 03:19, Zack Weinberg wrote: > I am not a Debian developer, but I am one of the upstream > developers of a piece of software (GCC) that would be affected > by this proposal, and so I would like to say that I > wholeheartedly support it. I wrote a lot of the text

The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-11 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, As a fool I have rushed in where angels fear to tread :-) I sent a couple of mails to Hans Reiser and Richard Stallman (RMS) on the issue of invariant sections (GFDL) and proper attribution (GPLv3?). The discussion with Hans revolved on issues regarding "social" vs. "legal" obligation. My

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