On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:56:12PM -0500, David Turner wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 05:01, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > To digress, I'm not really convinced that the Affero license does
> > that very well. It seems to only be talking about the server side, but
> > equally plausible seems to me to be
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:38:48PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> "Joe Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > >2. the Chinese Dissident.
> >
> > It has been suggested that this test be referred to as simply as the
> > "Dissident" test.
>
> But the suggestion has not been taken. The
la, 08-03-2003 kello 00:09, David Turner kirjoitti:
> It seems to me that there's a lot of stuff that you would want that
> gateway to strip or abbreviate. You would want to cut all copyright
> notices.
Assuming you would want to, how would you? There is no standard format
for copyright notices,
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:09:16PM -0500, David Turner wrote:
> Incidentally, it's probable that that service as-is violates a
> lot of copyright notices, by rebroadcasting the pages without
> permission.
I don't think "rebroadcasting" is the right model. We saw it
simply as an ultra-low-bandwi
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030307 22:05]:
> Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Forced publication of in-house development considerably increases the
> > cost of running software.
>
> This is only true when you adopt a "high falutin" concept of
> "publication".
>
> M
Anthony Towns writes:
> Take, say, xine as an example. Nice free program. GPLed. Someone wants
> to add support for Quicktime to it, but wants to get royalties for
> it. The write a Quicktime to mpeg convertor, and put that up on their
> website. They require you to pay a subscription to have acc
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:38:48PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > "Joe Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > >2. the Chinese Dissident.
> > >
> > > It has been suggested that this test be referred to as simply as the
> > > "Disside
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:37:49PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I considered that but I'm not sure how much of a threat it really is.
>
> Perhaps so, but in that case you should probably remove the bit about
> availability of encryption keys as we
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:36:57PM -0500, Joe Moore wrote:
> Nick Phillips said:
> > I don't think that losslessness is the right criterion, rather something
> > connected to the meaning of the source and the achievability of the
> > source's object.
>
> Can have useful source recovered from it, i
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0500, David Turner wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 13:11, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
> > Unfortunately, in the age of the DMCA that isn't quite enough. Since
> > the GPL has few restrictions on functional modification, it's not much
> > of an issue there. A documen
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:56:12PM -0500, David Turner wrote:
> That's not the argument that I understand Debian has for Free Software.
Careful, I'm not sure "Debian" *has* an argument for Free Software.
It's kind of an axiomatic principle for us. :)
> As I understand Debian's position, Free So
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 15:51, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Got shot in the face when answering your door? You should have answered
> the door in body armor, wearing an iron helmet and wielding an AK-47, or
> not answered the door at all.
Almost, except you forgot the right wing's love of the death p
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:40:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Mark Rafn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > You're not serious are you? Include "sanitize for undesirable comments",
> > re-architect to avoid an insecure hack, setup, house, and buy bandwidth
> > for http and mail servers fo
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:50:54PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2003, John Goerzen wrote:
> > What exactly am I ignoring here? Nothing here seems to require that
> > I distribute modified copies.
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood you.
>
> What I was getting at is that 2 a-c doesn't app
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't agree with this analysis at all. Translations from one natural
> language to another are very lossy things. Ever read Shakespeare
> without using the footnotes? How about Chaucer? Magnify that problem
> by ten.
I can agree completely. My
The files
/usr/share/doc/ocaml-native-compilers/copyright
/usr/share/doc/ocaml/copyright
/usr/share/doc/ocamlweb/copyright
contain the QPL, apparently only applying to some of the source files.
The QPL contains clause 6c which states:
6. You may develop application programs, reus
I've edited that nascent DFSG FAQ and put it at
http://www-bcl.cs.unm.edu/~bap/dfsg-faq.html
I'd appreciate comments. Especially from the OSD/DFSG "WE MUST UNIFY"
folks, who might perhaps be able to use some of this material to
clarify their OSD into conformance with Debian practice, ie to reje
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:50:54PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > What I was getting at is that 2 a-c doesn't apply to modifications you
> > make that you do not distribute.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, John Goerzen wrote:
> I completely agree with that :-)
Recent comments on this list make it clear th
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003, Barak Pearlmutter wrote:
> I've edited that nascent DFSG FAQ and put it at
>
> http://www-bcl.cs.unm.edu/~bap/dfsg-faq.html
>
> I'd appreciate comments.
It seems quite usefull to me, at least for starters.
However, if you (or your contributors) could add links to the porti
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 07:46:18PM -0700, Barak Pearlmutter wrote:
> I've edited that nascent DFSG FAQ and put it at
>
> http://www-bcl.cs.unm.edu/~bap/dfsg-faq.html
>
> I'd appreciate comments.
It seems a bit eager about the GPL. I'd much prefer if it gave equal
time to the GPL and the BSD ca
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 07:38:35PM -0700, Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote...
> contain the QPL, apparently only applying to some of the source files.
> The QPL contains clause 6c which states:
>
> 6. You may develop application programs, reusable components and other
> softwa
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