Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:31:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The Readme for VCG says: [...] > We thank the Compare Consortium for the permission to distribute > this software and documentation freely. You can redistribute > it under the terms of the GNU General Public Lice

Re: apsfilter license

2002-08-27 Thread Ville Muikkula
On 26 Aug 2002, David Turner wrote: >> The apsfilter license is a combination of the GNU GPL and postcardware > > Does apsfilterconfig link against any other GPL'd programs? No, it is a bash script. It also seems that all contributors of apsfilter have transferred their copyrights to the prima

APSFILTER license

2002-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I am one of the APSFILTER user who send you post card :) I like your post card ware idea :) But problem is If LICENSE file supersede COPYRIGHT file, APSFILTER may be considered non-FREE in Debian by some folks. There was a discussion to move your software to NON-FREE section due to this in

Re: LaTeX License?

2002-08-27 Thread C.M. Connelly
"JL" == Jeff Licquia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "WL" == Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JL> There's a new draft floating around. It also has JL> problems, but is closer to what we need, and I think the JL> problems can be worked out. I owe the LaTeX people an JL> analysis, but have a

mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
After 5 months in Incoming, mindterm was rejected from the US archive due to possible license incompatabilities. The situation is pretty unclear so I'd appreciate advice. Mindterm is a ssh client implemented wholly in java. As a whole it is licensed under the GPL (later versions were taken proprie

Re: non-software violates social contract?

2002-08-27 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 20:32, Aaron Swartz wrote: > I think it's clear that graphics fonts and documentation are not > software. I think it's clear you don't work with fonts or documentation. Type1 and TrueType fonts are both Turing-complete language. Non-bitmapped fonts are described as a progra

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 27 August 2002 12:17, Joey Hess wrote: > > So, they took the DES code from the ssh 1.2.26 source code (note that > that version of ssh was non-free as a whole; openbsd chose an earlier > version to fork). They rewrote it in java, but it is still presumably a > derivative work. > > I thin

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 03:17:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > After 5 months in Incoming, mindterm was rejected from the US archive > due to possible license incompatabilities. The situation is pretty > unclear so I'd appreciate advice. [...] > ssh-1.2.12 --

Re: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder

2002-08-27 Thread Martin Schulze
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder *Posted by chrisd[1] on Tuesday August 27, @03:27PM* *from the good-thing-ogg-is-up-to-speed dept.* Götz[2] writes "The licensing terms of Thomson and the Fraunhofer Gesellscha

Re: Bug#158529: vcg does not have a usable license

2002-08-27 Thread Malcolm Parsons
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:52:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yeah. I don't think it is distributable, and therefore not DFSG-free. > > While the copyright holder can certainly distribute obfuscated source > and no one can tell him not to, the GNU GPL by which the licensees > (i.e., we, an

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Walter Landry
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One file, DES.java, has the following comment: > > /** > * > * Copyright (c) 1998,99 by Mindbright Technology AB, Stockholm, Sweden. > * www.mindbright.se, [EMAIL P

Re: non-software violates social contract?

2002-08-27 Thread Alan Shutko
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Type1 and TrueType fonts are both Turing-complete language. [...] > PDF and PS documentation formats are Turing-complete languages, Hmmm... I'm pretty sure neither PDF nor Type 1 are Turing-complete. PDF was designed as sort of a predigested version of

Re: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder

2002-08-27 Thread Clint Adams
> 3. http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html > > I wonder whether it's time to cease all mp3 players from Debian as well. FWIW, this licensing change occurred in mid-2001.

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Walter Landry wrote: > What is the license on the java modifications by Mindbright? The > snippet above doesn't make it clear, but the usual custom is to place > modifications under the same license as the original. In which case > mindterm is still undistributable :( What "java modifications"?

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote: > I wonder if it possible to reconstruct the existing mindterm code base > from all the known DFSG-free code using a recipe. This recipe could > then be handed to the FTP admins. Only if you have an automatic C to java translator program.. An example closer to home for yo

Re: non-software violates social contract?

2002-08-27 Thread Aaron Swartz
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 02:19 PM, Joe Wreschnig wrote: I think it's clear that graphics fonts and documentation are not software. I think it's clear you don't work with fonts or documentation. I work with both. I understand these complexities but I didn't really want to go into them.

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:32:36PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > I wonder if it possible to reconstruct the existing mindterm code base > > from all the known DFSG-free code using a recipe. This recipe could > > then be handed to the FTP admins. > Only if you have an autom

Re: non-software violates social contract?

2002-08-27 Thread Joe Wreschnig
Please don't Cc me on list mail. On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 18:34, Aaron Swartz wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 02:19 PM, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > >> I think it's clear that graphics fonts and documentation are not > >> software. > > I think it's clear you don't work with fonts or documentatio

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote: > This is what puzzled me about this question. If the old code was C and > the new code is entirely Java, are there enough recognizable portions of > the old code left to be able to call mindterm a derivative work of > libdes? Algorithms are not copyrightable, and there are

Re: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder

2002-08-27 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 10:59:41PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > I wonder whether it's time to cease all mp3 players from Debian as well. Heh, I just noticed this on the licensing page: Note: This license does not cover the right to distribute, broadcast and/or stream mp3 / mp3PRO encoded

Re: mindterm copyright (more opensslish stuff)

2002-08-27 Thread Walter Landry
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter Landry wrote: > > What is the license on the java modifications by Mindbright? The > > snippet above doesn't make it clear, but the usual custom is to place > > modifications under the same license as the original. In which case > > mindterm is still

Re: Bug#158529: vcg does not have a usable license

2002-08-27 Thread Walter Landry
Malcolm Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The code can be de-uglified with a combination of this perl script, and > indent(1L): > > --- > #!/usr/bin/perl > $text=""; > while(<>){ $text.=$_; } > $text =~ s/\/\*[^\*]*;[^\*]*\*\///sg; > $text =~ s/\/