Licensing woes

2000-12-06 Thread peter karlsson
Hi! I've found a program that I would like to package for Debian, but the license to it was too restrictive. Now the author has changed the license, to one derived from the Artistic license, but I would like to check here whether it is free enough, since I'm a bit concerned about point 6 of the li

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Martin Waitz
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:18:14AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > > > OMS and all librarys are licensed under the GPL. > > For software dvd playback, it needs libcss, which can't be included legally, > > but oms itself doesn't depend on lib

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Sam TH
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:55:40PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:18:14AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > > > > > OMS and all librarys are licensed under the GPL. > > > For software dvd playback, it needs libcss, w

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:55:40PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:18:14AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > > > > > OMS and all librarys are licensed under the GPL. > > > For software dvd playback, it needs libcss, w

Re: Licensing woes

2000-12-06 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:38:33AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > 5. You may charge a reasonable copying fee for any distribution of this > Package. You may NOT charge any fee for support of this Package. > You may NOT charge a fee for this Package itself. However, you may > distribute this Packag

Re: eCos License Overview

2000-12-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I consider packaging ecos. Please look at the license here: > http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/license-overview.html > I think it qualifies as free. But there is some fishy thing that > changes made to the system must be announced. It says: | Any Mo

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread aaronl
> Background: > libcss itself is distributed under the gpl, but is considered illegal > by the DVD-CCA (dvd copy control association) and > MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America). Oh, better avoid it than. The MPAA and DVD-CCA are the people who make descisions about what is legal and w

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Martin Waitz
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 10:07:47AM -0500, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:55:40PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > > > OMS and all librarys are licensed under the GPL. > > > > For software dvd playback, it needs libcss, which can't be included > > > > legally, > > This is an unj

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:55:40PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:18:14AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: > > > > > > > > OMS and all librarys are licensed under the GP

Re: eCos License Overview

2000-12-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:42:59PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > In this case the clause also discriminates against anyone who can > afford giving his neighbour a floppy disk with modified sources > but cannot afford using whatever "accepted Electronic Distribution > Mechanism" the language mean

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > > > By the SDNY's injunction being as broad as it is, I would submit that > > libcss is under injunction. You know the text of the injunction, > > Brian--I've seen your comments on it on t

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > By the SDNY's injunction being as broad as it is, I would submit that > libcss is under injunction. You know the text of the injunction, > Brian--I've seen your comments on it on the harvard list. In fact, > you could read that the i

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:52:49PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > > > > > By the SDNY's injunction being as broad as it is, I would submit that > > > libcss is under injunction. You know th

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > Brian--I've seen your comments on it on the harvard list. In fact, > you could read that the injunction applies to every warm body on Earth and > every program that looks like it could possibly transfer a bit off a > DVD. The MPAA picke

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 06:36:14PM -0500, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > > At this point, there's a value judgement to be done: does the > > potential harm outweigh the potential benefits. > > Yes. Debian should stay well away from the slippery slope of > prohibiting things because someone _might_ sue. E

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Bart Schuller wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > Brian--I've seen your comments on it on the harvard list. In fact, > > you could read that the injunction applies to every warm body on Earth and > > every program that looks like it could po

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > Injunctions don't apply to non-parties. If you weren't a party in Universal > v. Corley, the injunction doesn't apply to you. You'd certainly know if you > were a party, since you would have had to hire a lawyer, deal with all sorts > of volumous pape

Re: ITP: oms -- Open Media System DVD Player

2000-12-06 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 06:49:28PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > > > > Injunctions don't apply to non-parties. If you weren't a party in Universal > > v. Corley, the injunction doesn't apply to you. You'd certainly know if you > > were a party, since you