Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 02:34:55PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > He is _trying_ to be DFSG-compliant but his license is mis-worded. > Someone should contact him. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From what I've read, Donald Knuth doesn't work on internet ti

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > When I first looked at that license, I didn't see the "Donald Knuth" and > assumed that license was written by some completely clue-less person. > It's extremely ambiguous in that the "changes are only permissible" does > not actually grant any rights - i

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Bruce Perens
There's got to be someone at Stanford who can get to him. Bruce

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Mike Goldman
Bruce Perens wrote: > He is _trying_ to be DFSG-compliant but his license is mis-worded. > Someone should contact him. This is Donald Knuth we're talking about -- he's not easy to contact. I don't think the license is a problem anyhow, here's my analyis. "This file may be freely copied and dist

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 10:14:15AM +, Mike Goldman wrote: > I don't think the license is a problem anyhow, here's my analyis. ... which does not address the two specific points I raised in my original mail. I am not convinced. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.i

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Mike Goldman
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 10:14:15AM +, Mike Goldman wrote: > > I don't think the license is a problem anyhow, here's my analyis. > > ... which does not address the two specific points I raised in my > original mail. I am not convinced. Well, it *does* address t

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:02:21AM +, Mike Goldman wrote: > Well, it *does* address the issue of modified works. Either call it something > other than MMIXware, or distribute pristine source plus patches. Where does it say anything about distributing modified works? It just says that modific

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Mike Goldman
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:02:21AM +, Mike Goldman wrote: > > Well, it *does* address the issue of modified works. Either call it > > something > > other than MMIXware, or distribute pristine source plus patches. > > Where does it say anything about distributi

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Mike Goldman
Mike Goldman wrote: > > And what about the binaries? > > I agree that binaries, modified or not, are a question. I will investigate > this > question as well as I can, but if anyone can get hold of Donald Knuth > directly and > obtain clarification, it may be helpful. I browsed Professor Knuth

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:59:53AM +, Mike Goldman wrote: > If > we're required to take a position that absence of explicit grant to distribute > binaries is denial of the right, you may be correct That's how modern copyright operates. Everything is denied until explicitly allowed. This is a

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 21:37:13 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > There's got to be someone at Stanford who can get to him. See http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/email.html for contact details. Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Mike Goldman
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 21:37:13 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > > There's got to be someone at Stanford who can get to him. > > See http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/email.html for contact > details. Yes, but to wait 3 months for a response to a snail mail req