Re: Werken Public License

1999-06-14 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So, is anyone official willing to spend the few minutes > to write an email to them, to warn them of misusing > the Open Source trademark/whatever, or should I do it > as a "concerned individual"? I am not be able to write > it as nicely as some of you..

Re: Werken Public License

1999-06-14 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 04:00:29PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > I agree with your call on the DFSG #9 violation, it's not currently Open > Source. > > > From: Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * You may not distribute a modified version of this software without > >providing sour

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-14 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 03:34:38PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What about folks developing Microsoft Windows apps with djgpp or cygwin32? > > Microsoft's application license explicitly prohibits you from running their > applications on a non-Microsoft

Possible GPL violation?

1999-06-14 Thread James Mastros
Hey all... As I was looking for somthing completly different, I noticed somthing interesting -- a commercial RCS client/server for Windows (Microsoft, that is), that loudly claims to be based on GNU RCS -- but dosn't have source anywhere obvious. Anybody care to look into it further? It's at ht

Re: Possible GPL violation?

1999-06-14 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 07:32:40AM -0400, James Mastros wrote: > Hey all... > As I was looking for somthing completly different, I noticed somthing > interesting -- a commercial RCS client/server for Windows (Microsoft, that > is), that loudly claims to be based on GNU RCS -- but dosn't have sour

Re: Possible GPL violation?

1999-06-14 Thread James Mastros
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 02:44:53PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 07:32:40AM -0400, James Mastros wrote: > > Hey all... > > As I was looking for somthing completly different, I noticed somthing > > interesting -- a commercial RCS client/server for Windows (Microsof

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread David Starner
At 07:48 AM 6/14/99 -0500, Adam Rogoyski wrote: >On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > >> Not even. pico CANNOT be packaged for Debian! The best that can be done >> is offer the source and let you build it yourself. >> >> To be blunt: Tough. Convince UW to make pico free software and get

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread Henning Makholm
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The copyright for Pine and Pico has been updated on June 2nd and seems > >less restrictive, http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html. > >Does it still fail the Debian Free Software guidelines? > Definetly. "Redistribution of this release i

RE: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread Brimhall, GeoffreyX L
When I started using Debian, I was also a little startled at not having pico. Then I learned about joe (which provides a pico emulation via the command 'jpico'), and all was happy in the universe. It would be nice if joe could be a main editor. -Original Message- From: David Starner [mai

Re: Werken Public License

1999-06-14 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This could be interpreted as saying that you must provide source code along > with the binaries. This would make binary .deb files impossible to > distribute. You've got a point. Let's get these guys to craft their license more carefully. Thank

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-14 Thread Bruce Perens
I'd want to see the court decision. However, you can certainly protect against this in your license, regardless of whether it is derivative or not. Thanks Bruce From: Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This doesn't quite seem right. In fact, I think a precident has been set to

[New pine license]

1999-06-14 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Henning Makholm wrote: > > > The copyright for Pine and Pico has been updated on June 2nd and seems > > >less restrictive, http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html. > > >Does it still fail the Debian Free Software guidelines? > > | Redistribution of this release is permitted as follo

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread Joseph Carter
/* * Doing my best to get this moved to -legal */ On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 02:17:11PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 14-Jun-99, 07:48 (CDT), Adam Rogoyski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The copyright for Pine and Pico has been updated on June 2nd and seems > > less restrictive, http://www

Re: [New pine license]

1999-06-14 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 03:25:52PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > | Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual > > | agreement: > > | (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns; > > | (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concern

NEdit Text Editor License for Review

1999-06-14 Thread Mark Edel
After a year and a half of bureaucratic wrangling, the license for the NEdit text editor has been trimmed down to exclude some of the silly clauses that made it questionable to Debian. I'm still a bit worried that it only implicitly allows modification and redistribution, and not explicitly. Is t

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 14-Jun-99, 15:14 (CDT), Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /* > * Doing my best to get this moved to -legal > */ posted to -legal only --sg :-) > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 02:17:11PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > | Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, > > | or

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-14 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 05:38:27PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I thought that at first, however the above appear to be OR'd, not AND'd. > > In that case (a) and (b) apply to our ftp sites, (c) seems to apply to > > anybody's distribution of Debian on cdrom. > > The problem I have is not AND