Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:01:55 -0500 Arc Riley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: [...] > > That said, VP3/Theora can hardly compare with H.264 in terms of > > coding efficiency. There really is no viable alternative in some > > situations. Microsoft's WMV9/VC1 c

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:39:32 -0500 Arc Riley wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:09:39AM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: [...] > > The patent situation is unfortunate. Nevertheless, the H.264 codec > > is being adopted by broadcasters throughout the world. For good or > > bad, the codec is here to st

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-03 Thread Måns Rullgård
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:39:32PM -0500, Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm not saying the patent issue should be ignored. It just strikes me >> > as silly to even start comparing Theora with H.264. >> >> Certain graphic artists would say the

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:39:32PM -0500, Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not saying the patent issue should be ignored. It just strikes me > > as silly to even start comparing Theora with H.264. > > Certain graphic artists would say the same of GIMP vs Photoshop, or compare > their

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:09:39AM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > > Sure, On2 has allowed free use of *its* patents relating to VP3. That > doesn't mean that some obscure company will pop up out of nowhere with > a bunch of patents they claim *also* apply to VP3, and that On2 has > been infringing

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: >> > >> > The codec has dozens of different corporations holding patents over >> > it, who will try to extract royalties for it in countries where >> > those patents are upheld (ie, USA), and giv

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:12PM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > > > > The codec has dozens of different corporations holding patents over > > it, who will try to extract royalties for it in countries where > > those patents are upheld (ie, USA), and giving it "this is free > > because it's GPL" hu

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:26:56PM -0800, David Liontooth wrote: >> >> Are there objections to including the new H.264 encoder in Debian? >> For details, see bug 354667 (request for packaging). >> >> Debian maintainer Christian Marillat currently maintains

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:26:56PM -0800, David Liontooth wrote: > > Are there objections to including the new H.264 encoder in Debian? > For details, see bug 354667 (request for packaging). > > Debian maintainer Christian Marillat currently maintains an unofficial > package, and we would like yo

Re: x264 for Debian

2006-03-02 Thread David Liontooth
illat wrote: >David Liontooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Would you consider packaging x264 for Debian? My experience with your >>unofficial packages has been excellent on both x86 and amd64. Even >>though the library is still labeled "in early developme