Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-16 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: >On Sat 06 Oct, John Galt wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: >> > >> >The current license in full is: >> > >> >Terminology >> >--- >> >1. The `original author' contained here in is Russell King, currently >> >contactable at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-16 Thread Wookey
On Sat 06 Oct, John Galt wrote: > On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: > > >The current license in full is: > > > >Terminology > >--- > >1. The `original author' contained here in is Russell King, currently > >contactable at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >2. The `source code' refers to the m

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is a requirement about what is done when those modification is > made (you should send the mods to the author), but that's pretty easily > dealt with (it's a "should" which means that if it ever did go to court, > the court is likely to accept just

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:25:16AM -0400, I wrote: > In the example we're talking about, the the license terms are the same > for both cases. There are conditions which kick in when the sources > are modified which are irrelevant if no modifications are made, but the > terms are the same. I shoul

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-08 Thread Raul Miller
> > If the terms of the license disallow modification and > > redistribution then that's a problem. > > > Mind pointing out how that applies to this case? On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 02:19:38PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > 1. I think everyone agrees that to pass DFSG #1, the licence must >have

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Raul Miller answered me privately (but said it was OK to take the discussion back to the list, which I hereby do): > On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 08:38:08PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > As for DFSG chapter and verse I can only refer to point 3: > > | The license must allow modifications and der

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [modifications-must-be-publicized clause] > If a particular technology or delivery timeframe is required, that hurts > people in countries without cheap implementations of that technology or > where that timeframe is a hardship. > This one might actually

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 08:11:08AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to see justification for this. I've seen justification for > particular versions of this clause under fields of endeavor but all > the justifications I saw rested on some non-generic aspect of the > clause currently under disc

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> If the "should send sources to author" thing is a Raul> requirement -- if people must send sources to author under Raul> some circumstances, it's a DFSG problem. I'd like to see justification for this. I've seen justifica

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-06 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: >Just to clarify this a little for -legal readers: > >There is a set of boot utils for the risc PC that are necesary to partition >the drive and boot a kernel, written by Russell King (arm kernel maintainer). > >These are not curretnly distributed with debian-arm

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 12:27:42PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Wookey" == Wookey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Wookey> 1. Any changes should be forwarded to the original author > Wookey> for inclusion in a later release of the tools. > > Ask the author for what he means by shoul

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Wookey" == Wookey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wookey> 1. Any changes should be forwarded to the original author Wookey> for inclusion in a later release of the tools. Ask the author for what he means by should. If he doesn't see this as a strict requirement, but only a strong rec

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-05 Thread Wookey
Just to clarify this a little for -legal readers: There is a set of boot utils for the risc PC that are necesary to partition the drive and boot a kernel, written by Russell King (arm kernel maintainer). These are not curretnly distributed with debian-arm boot-floppies because we don't think the

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 1. Modifications should come back to me. This is to prevent the current > >situation where people have long outstanding patches against the Linux > >kernel sitting around that we, as a community, never see. If anything, > >this is a requi

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:18:04PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > On Tue 04 Sep, Phil Blundell wrote: > > >as it basically worked. Given that rmk has mostly lost interest in > > >the RiscPC these days he may well now be happy to fully free this > > >code so we can just use that? > > > > Did you ask him ab