Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-11 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Clause 9 seems pretty straightforward: if the copyright holder has > decided to allow it, you can use later versions of the license for his > code. It doesn't say that if he has given permission to allow this, you > can freely remove this permission from forks

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:08:25AM -0600, John Galt wrote: > >Um, he's saying that if a program says "you may use version 2 or later", you > >can't change that to "you must use version 2", except in your own code, > >since that's changing the license. > > Um, then what's the point of clause 9 at a

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-10 Thread starner
>The reason is always the same: trust no one. A change by the FSF to the GPL is more likely to close a loophole than open one. Honestly, if you trust no one, I don't see why you're releasing the code; large parts of the world live under legal systems that don't care about your copyright, either i

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-10 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Glenn Maynard wrote: >On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 05:04:21AM -0600, John Galt wrote: >> >Unless you own the copyright the GPL does not give you permission to >> >relicense. >> >Stating that you may only use the GPLv2 changes the curr

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 05:04:21AM -0600, John Galt wrote: > >Unless you own the copyright the GPL does not give you permission to > >relicense. > >Stating that you may only use the GPLv2 changes the current license and is > >just > >as forbidden as deciding you want to re-release it as BSD licen

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-09 Thread Oohara Yuuma
[Please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to the list.] On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:36:26 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, > >so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL version 2 > >or later. Can I put it under GPL

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-09 Thread Sunnanvind Fenderson
The way I always looked at this issue was like this: Someone gives you a copy of (say) xsoldier, under the GPL v2, or later, *your choice*. You can choose to pass that extra choice along to everyone you distribute to (I like doing this) or you can choose not to. The choice itself is not a part o

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-09 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >On 08-Jun-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: >> [Please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to the list.] >> >> I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, >> so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL version 2 >> or later.

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 04:49:10PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 08-Jun-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > > [Please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to the list.] > > I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, > > so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL v

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Jun-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > [Please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to the list.] > > I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, > so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL version 2 > or later. Can I put it under GPL exactly version 2, that is, >

Re: forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-08 Thread starner
>I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, >so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL version 2 >or later. Can I put it under GPL exactly version 2, that is, >forbid any later version? GPL says: [...] >Is forbidding later versions of GPL "further restrictions"?

forbidding later version of GPL for xsoldier

2002-06-08 Thread Oohara Yuuma
[Please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to the list.] I took over the upstream of xsoldier (I am not the original author, so I don't have the copyright). It was under GPL version 2 or later. Can I put it under GPL exactly version 2, that is, forbid any later version? GPL says: > 6. Each