Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Juan M. Mendez wrote: > On 10/9/06, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, >> the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not >> change the copyright notice. > So, I have been investigating. > > It see

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Joe Smith wrote: > > "Juan M. Mendez" wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> So, I have been investigating. >> >> It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: >> http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ >> >> where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of t

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
The title of this thread made me think, "Gee, I'd love to conquer relicensing." I'm certainly not a relicensing master yet. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however > I need a

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-11 Thread Joe Smith
"Arnoud Engelfriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > However I didn't see a signature in the text file. > Only the guy's name. At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned "affirmative acts") is what make cli

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: > Being completely reworks for the game, could it be safe to relicense > version 4, no matter what Adam did with version 5? If version 4 and version 5 have competely different codebases and were written by different people, then the author of version 4 can do whatever he want

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > > However I didn't see a signature in the text file. > > Only the guy's name. > > At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned "affirmative > acts") is what make click-through agreements binding -- the act of > clicking is the user's el

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
So, as a briefing, it seems an electronic permission can be enough, the same licenses are now for source code. And about conquer, I talked againt to Ed, it seems he keeps the right of version 4, and it was version 5 the one that Bryant developed and probably used with that company. Being complet

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > Michael Poole wrote: >> Arnoud Engelfriet writes: >> > Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, >> > the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not >> > change the copyright notice. >> >> This is certainly a curious definition

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > > Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, > > the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not > > change the copyright notice. > > This is certainly a curious definition of "writing" and "signature" -- > w

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Joe Smith
"Juan M. Mendez" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of the code with a notice starting with.

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: > My doubt is, how this license transfering of the Adam Bryant code > could affect the old code of version 4 of conquer released in 1988 in > USENET, the one that Ed allowed me to relicense as Free Software. That really depends on what Adam put in his contract with that gamin

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > Michael Poole wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> > * The following file "trade.c" was written by Adam Bryant who >> > * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this >> > * message remains intact. >> >> IANAL, but this looks like an effective convey

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
On 10/9/06, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. That brings me a new issue, with more doubts, so I reproduce the messages I had

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > * The following file "trade.c" was written by Adam Bryant who > > * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this > > * message remains intact. > > IANAL, but this looks like an effective conveyance of copyright to me. I would r

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi all, > > I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however > I need advice. > > Edward M Barlow wrote "conquer", a middle earth multi-player curses > based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 > and 1988. Later Adam Br

conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however I need advice. Edward M Barlow wrote "conquer", a middle earth multi-player curses based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 and 1988. Later Adam Bryant contributing with code and patching