Re: Bug #284221: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
>Not really. That licence doesn't allow Debian to distribute whatever >it is that's being licenced. There's only permission for personal use. Hmm. My initial reading was that "you" could (1) "create, test and provide" programs for use with ALTEON network cards (2) "license the object code" of s

Re: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
>Is this helpful >http://web.archive.org/web/2711071330/sanjose.alteon.com/license-agree.shtml Yes, it certainly is! Thank you for finding this. :-) It's not a free software license, but it looks like it may be a license which allows distribution in non-free. :-)

Re: Bug#284221: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-13 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:15:57PM -0500, Christopher Priest wrote: > Is this helpful > http://web.archive.org/web/2711071330/sanjose.alteon.com/license-agree.shtml Not really. That licence doesn't allow Debian to distribute whatever it is that's being licenced. There's only permission for p

Re: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-13 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:15:57PM -0500, Christopher Priest wrote: > Is this helpful > http://web.archive.org/web/2711071330/sanjose.alteon.com/license-agree.shtml This license doesn't let us distribute the software. This is pretty clearly stated in the first two sentences of the first two n

Re: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-13 Thread Christopher Priest
The current owner of alteon is nortel. http://web.archive.org/web/20040117112911/www.alteonwebsystems.com/ascii/

Re: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-13 Thread Christopher Priest
> Perhaps someone can track down the original license > listed on the now-defunct web page (supposedly http://alteonwebsystems.com/) > where Alteon allowed people to download the firmware? > (This is a sad lesson for the developers of the Arsenic enhanced firmware: > Never, ever, point to someone e

Re: acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-12 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:17:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Warning: long. CC'ed to debian-legal in case anyone there knows anything more. How about cc'ing the author of the driver? He might know the answer. > The source for the acenic driver is in fact in the source package for > the k

acenic firmware situation summary

2004-12-12 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Warning: long. CC'ed to debian-legal in case anyone there knows anything more. The source for the acenic driver is in fact in the source package for the kernel. The firmware is absent from Debian for *very* good reasons: the version in the Linux kernel is distributed without proper copyright not