Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-04-16 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <17890740.4861239900788731.javamail.r...@newmail.brainfood.com>, Ean Schuessler writes I raised this in the past as we use Zimbra internally. The main objection at that time was "choice of venue", which has been discussed at length. I continue to hold the view that establishing the

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:53:08AM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote: > I continue to hold the view that establishing the legal venue gives > clarity to the contractual structure of the agreement in a positive > way. Its better to have the contract explicitly define which legal > "operating system" it is

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-04-16 Thread Ean Schuessler
I raised this in the past as we use Zimbra internally. The main objection at that time was "choice of venue", which has been discussed at length. I continue to hold the view that establishing the legal venue gives clarity to the contractual structure of the agreement in a positive way. Its bett

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-03-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:16:12 +0100 (CET) Cedric Fachinetti wrote: [...] > Yahoo! Public License, Version 1.1 (YPL) [...] > • 6.2 - In the event You violate the terms of this Agreement, > Yahoo! may terminate this Agreement. This seems to be the only significant change with respect to ver

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-03-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 23 mars 2009 à 17:16 +0100, Cedric Fachinetti a écrit : > * 3.2 - In any copy of the Software or in any > Modification you create, You must retain and > reproduce, any and all copyright, patent, trademark, > and attribution noti

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Cedric Fachinetti wrote: > What does the debian-legal community think? License NIH is fun! -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2009-03-23 Thread Cedric Fachinetti
Hello All, I quoted Allard Hoeve March 2008: We'd like to try to package Zimbra for Debian. Zimbra is at http://www.zimbra.com/. It is distributed according to the Yahoo Public License, which you can read at http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.1.html Is the Yahoo Public L

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-27 Thread Allard Hoeve
Hello All, Sorry about the radio-silence there. I've been busy. Thanks for all the comments on the license. I'll write the authors to ask them to change it to a DFSG compatible license. It seems they just copied something from the intarweb and applied it. Who knows if they'll just switch? :

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:37:12 +0100 Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/3/14, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The rest of the license seems to be a weak copyleft that's > > GPL-incompatible. > > Both v2 and v3 I guess? I think so, because it includes restrictions[1] not present in GPLv2 and not p

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:41:32 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Miriam wrote: > > > What about "6.2 - In the event Yahoo! determines that You have > > > breached this Agreement, Yahoo! may terminate this Agreement." ? Would > > > it give Yahoo! the power to te

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-14 Thread MJ Ray
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miriam wrote: > > What about "6.2 - In the event Yahoo! determines that You have > > breached this Agreement, Yahoo! may terminate this Agreement." ? Would > > it give Yahoo! the power to terminate the license randomly at their > > will (for example, if Mi

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-14 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/3/14, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The rest of the license seems to be a weak copyleft that's > GPL-incompatible. Both v2 and v3 I guess? Greetings, Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:57:37 +0100 Francesco Poli wrote: [...] The following parts are the ones that worry me most: > Yahoo! Public License, Version 1.0 (YPL) [...] > The > U.N. Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of > Goods shall not apply to this Agreemen

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:39 +0100 (CET) Allard Hoeve wrote: > > Hello All, Hi! > > I'd like to try to package Zimbra for Debian. > > Zimbra is at http://www.zimbra.com/. It is distributed according to the > Yahoo Public License, which you can read at > http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_p

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Miriam! You wrote: > What about "6.2 - In the event Yahoo! determines that You have > breached this Agreement, Yahoo! may terminate this Agreement." ? Would > it give Yahoo! the power to terminate the license randomly at their > will (for example, if Microsoft buys it in the future), or is it

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Miriam Ruiz
What about "6.2 - In the event Yahoo! determines that You have breached this Agreement, Yahoo! may terminate this Agreement." ? Would it give Yahoo! the power to terminate the license randomly at their will (for example, if Microsoft buys it in the future), or is it safe enough? In any case, I don'

Re: Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Allard! You wrote: > Zimbra is at http://www.zimbra.com/. It is distributed according to the > Yahoo Public License, which you can read at > http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html > > Is the Yahoo Public License DFSG-compatible? It looks like a basic copyleft license.

Zimbra and Yahoo Public License

2008-03-13 Thread Allard Hoeve
Hello All, I'd like to try to package Zimbra for Debian. Zimbra is at http://www.zimbra.com/. It is distributed according to the Yahoo Public License, which you can read at http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html Is the Yahoo Public License DFSG-compatible? I haven't fou