Re: SSH never free

1999-10-08 Thread Richard Stallman
> However, it occurs to me that there may be a way around this. It > seems to me that once you make a modified version and rename it, the > requirement is exhausted. Further modifications will not require > repeated renamings. Ingenious. However, to be on the safe side we'd p

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, it occurs to me that there may be a way around this. It > seems to me that once you make a modified version and rename it, the > requirement is exhausted. Further modifications will not require > repeated renamings. Ingenious. However, to

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-07 Thread Richard Stallman
> > The GPL requires that you include prominent notices stating that you > > changed the files (and the date of any changes). > > Yes, but it allows me to choose which form of prominent notice I use. Not explicitly. The GPL requires you to mark modified versions as modified,

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-07 Thread Richard Stallman
> Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under > a license with a "rename if certain changes are made" clause? >=20 > No, it does not. Out of curiosity, why not? Because it is a restriction that is not in the GPL. It therefore conflicts with the GPL's req

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Richard Stallman wrote: > Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under > a license with a "rename if certain changes are made" clause? > > No, it does not. Out of curiosity, why not? Wichert. -- ==

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-06 Thread Richard Stallman
Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under a license with a "rename if certain changes are made" clause? No, it does not. However, it might be worth while for us to make a specific exception to permit linking GMP with that code. The benefits could be great, and the situati

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 06:08:23PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:18:25AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under > > > a license with a "rename if certain changes are made

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:18:25AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under > > a license with a "rename if certain changes are made" clause? > The GPL requires that you include prominent notices stating

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-05 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 11:18:03PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Ben Pfaff wrote: > > The TSS encryption algorithm implementation in tss.c is copyright Timo > > Rinne and Cirion Oy. It is used with permission, and permission has > > been given for anyone to use it for any

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Seth David Schoen
Wichert Akkerman writes: > Previously Ben Pfaff wrote: > > The TSS encryption algorithm implementation in tss.c is copyright Timo > > Rinne and Cirion Oy. It is used with permission, and permission has > > been given for anyone to use it for any purpose as part of ssh. > > This viola

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:18:25AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Does the GPL allow redistribution of deriviate works under > a license with a "rename if certain changes are made" clause? The GPL requires that you include prominent notices stating that you changed the files (and the date of any

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Henning Makholm
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quotes the ssh-1.2.0 license: > Any derived versions of this > software must be clearly marked as such, and if the derived work is > incompatible with the protocol description in the RFC file, it must be > called by a name other than "ssh" or "Secure S

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Pfaff wrote: > The TSS encryption algorithm implementation in tss.c is copyright Timo > Rinne and Cirion Oy. It is used with permission, and permission has > been given for anyone to use it for any purpose as part of ssh. This violates the DFSG. Wichert. -- =

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Seth David Schoen
Brian Ristuccia writes: > On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:18:27PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote: > > It looks like that version of ssh really was free software. > > I am surprised. > > > > Patent issues still make it not free for most people in the US. For less than a year, if they use RSA plus Blow

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:18:27PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote: > It looks like that version of ssh really was free software. > I am surprised. > Patent issues still make it not free for most people in the US. Considering that the older free ssh1 version probably has bugs, and the rather odious

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-04 Thread Richard Stallman
It looks like that version of ssh really was free software. I am surprised.

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
[Note: I'm moving this to the debian-legal list.] Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me > the license on the version that they started with? I don't know what version they started with. However, the COPYING file incl