Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-16 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The former [relicensing component parts under compatible licenses] > is not an option for OpenSSL (has probably been tried millions of > times) Never say never; popular works do sometimes change licenses from community pressure to be compatible. I haven't

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:56 +1100, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In my view, the ideal solution from a reduce-licensing-headaches >perspective is to get all the code in a work licensed compatibly with >no need for exception clauses, either by relicensing some parts or by >replacing parts

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-14 Thread Jeff Licquia
Stephen Gran wrote: I have been under the impression that the answer is no. You're not linking L to OpenSSL. It could be argued that this was an attempt at defeating the GPL if P was a thin shim layer between L and OpenSSL, but I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that for our default MTA.

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-14 Thread Ben Finney
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said: > > If both M and P were GPL with OpenSSL exception, but L were GPL > > without OpenSSL exception, this linking would be a violation of > > L's license?`By virtue of P linking to M and L and M linking to > > O

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said: > Let me understand this in Theory. Given the following link tree: > > - > | program P | > - > / \ > / \ > -

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-14 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If both M and P were GPL with OpenSSL exception, but L were GPL > without OpenSSL exception, this linking would be a violation of L's > license?`By virtue of P linking to M and L and M linking to OpenSSL? That's my understanding, yes. This is why things l

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:35:55 +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Le jeudi 08 novembre 2007 à 19:27 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit : >> (1) >> Is it ok to change exim's SSL library to OpenSSL in the current setup >> without violating the GPL for some of the library currently in use > >It

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, Le jeudi 08 novembre 2007 à 19:27 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit : > (1) > Is it ok to change exim's SSL library to OpenSSL in the current setup > without violating the GPL for some of the library currently in use As you said, libmysqlclient and exim are OK with linking with OpenSSL. The one pro

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:16:49 +, Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Marc Haber writes ("transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)"): >> (1) >> Is it ok to change exim's SSL library to OpenSSL in the current setup >> without violating the GPL for some of the library currently in use >

Re: transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)

2007-11-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Marc Haber writes ("transitive GPL (exim4, OpenSSL, mySQL and others)"): > (1) > Is it ok to change exim's SSL library to OpenSSL in the current setup > without violating the GPL for some of the library currently in use You mentioned libpq and mysql. What other libraries are involved ? All of the