Re: Summaries

2005-03-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On 01 Mar 2005 03:34:19 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Basically, if you want to advise copyright holders what licence > to use, the present DLS documents are not much help. IMHO, they can be useful as a reference that explains which issues have been found out in the license. Of course the summary style can

Re: Summaries

2005-02-28 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28 Feb 2005 12:25:52 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > > Maybe, but good/poor comments are a bit more judgement than > > the DLSes give too. They say "this licence is foo" rather than > > giving recommendations for what you think is the most common > > want. > I'm s

Re: Summaries

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On 28 Feb 2005 12:25:52 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 25 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > > > Well-meaning authors can go look at similar packages already > > > in main and check the copyright file. > > Imitating other licensors and repeating the same po

Re: summaries bugs, was: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-09 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-08-09 18:26:19 +0100 Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [MJR] summary guidelines suggest a link back to the DFSG for all problems in clauses 3-4. The list of reasons in Jeremy Hankin's guidelines need not connect to the DFSG at all. Either: a. I was trying to con debian-legal i

Re: summaries bugs, was: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-09 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 03:45, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-08-09 06:17:17 +0100 Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Since February, -legal has had an "official" (as official as they get) > > document claiming that even without further annoyances from X-Oz that > > clause is non-free. Simon La

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-30 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-29 22:21:16 +0100 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The summariser must implement a comand-line switch (--license or --package) and generate a different type of output depending on how he/she was invoked. [...] Now, it's clear (even to me! ;-) and it sounds like a good propo

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:23:40 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Interesting reply, TNX > but it seems to have missed my main point. Ouch, I apologize for this... ;p > > On 2004-06-26 18:30:40 +0100 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > So, IIUC, you propose that summaries should be split int

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-28 Thread MJ Ray
Interesting reply, but it seems to have missed my main point. On 2004-06-26 18:30:40 +0100 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, IIUC, you propose that summaries should be split into two `variants' This part is correct. in your opinion, every license should be summarized by one do

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:01:36 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-06-24 10:40:01 +0100 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Anyway, IMHO, summaries of /license/ analyses are still useful. > > Oh, I agree, but I think we need to make a few changes to how they're > being done, now we've se

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-24 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-24 10:40:01 +0100 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyway, IMHO, summaries of /license/ analyses are still useful. Oh, I agree, but I think we need to make a few changes to how they're being done, now we've seen them in action for a while. There seem to be two types of

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-24 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:44:42 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > I see. Were you absent from the discussion earlier this year about > whether these summaries would be useful? Now that we've seen them in > action a few times, I feel that they are doing more harm than good > because they always seem to include

Re: Summaries in general, was: Summary Update: MPL ...

2004-06-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 10:44:42PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-06-23 19:12:41 +0100 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >We've got a lot of licenses like this. This is why we review packages, > >not licenses. > > I see. Were you absent from the discussion earlier this year about