Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michelle Konzack: > This would even mean, if we work together, and I build the EPS filee and > I give it to you (the OSS guy) to review and continue the work on it, it > would be a violation of the Adobe License. I'm not sure. You need to check what the Adobe license says. We often make polic

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Florian Weimer, Am 2012-08-09 21:52:25, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > * Michelle Konzack: > > I have "Adobe Ilustrator" (just a standard installation from CD with the > > legal serialnumber) runing under WINE and if I create an EPS, it has the > > same header! > > Does this now mean, I h

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michelle Konzack: > I have "Adobe Ilustrator" (just a standard installation from CD with the > legal serialnumber) runing under WINE and if I create an EPS, it has the > same header! > > Does this now mean, I have not the right to distrigbute my work freely? Probably yes. EPS files created by

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-07 Thread roucaries bastien
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Michael Wild wrote: > On 07/31/2012 09:51 PM, Bart Martens wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25:32PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Michael Wild wrote: >>> I'm maintaining a package that conta

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-07 Thread roucaries bastien
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Michael Wild wrote: > Dear all > > I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe > Illustrator and hence contains postscript library code that is > copyrighted by Adobe, e.g.: > > * Copyright(C)2000-2006 Adobe Systems, Inc. All Rights Rese

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bart Martens, Am 2012-08-05 22:12:31, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 11:59:14PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > I have "Adobe Ilustrator" (just a standard installation from CD with the > > legal serialnumber) runing under WINE and if I create an EPS, it has the

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bernhard R. Link, Am 2012-08-05 08:59:30, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > | 16.6.3 Customer may take a copy of the font(s) Customer has used for a > | particular file to a commercial printer or other service bureau, and > | such service bureau may use the font(s) to process its file, provi

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-05 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 11:59:14PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I have "Adobe Ilustrator" (just a standard installation from CD with the > legal serialnumber) runing under WINE and if I create an EPS, it has the > same header! > > Does this now mean, I have not the right to distrigbute my work

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bernhard R. Link, Am 2012-08-01 00:45:27, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > If someone claims he has a license from Adobe, then well, believe him > unless you run into some statement from Adobe that they do not give > away any licenses like that. If someone just claims it is under a free > l

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Christofer C. Bell [120805 02:56]: > Are we honestly to believe that this document, the authorship of which > is entirely mine, cannot be redistributed by me because Apple holds a > copyright to it? That makes no sense whatsoever. The copyright of contents displayed are yours, but not the embe

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-04 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > > Bart Martens writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:29:52PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > The sensible *default* assumption is that when an upstream asserts > > > that the license on their work is $foo, they know what they're > > > talk

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-02 Thread Ben Finney
Bart Martens writes: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:29:52PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The sensible *default* assumption is that when an upstream asserts > > that the license on their work is $foo, they know what they're > > talking about > > Yes, "on their work". > > > even when portions are

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:03:43PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:20:29PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:40:00AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:24:25AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > > > Every copyright notice means that

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:20:29PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:40:00AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:24:25AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > > Every copyright notice means that there is at least a part copyrighted by > > > the > > > mentioned c

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-08-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:40:00AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:24:25AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > Every copyright notice means that there is at least a part copyrighted by > > the > > mentioned copyright holder. > > Every? Yes. > Like this one, that can be found i

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:24:25AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:01:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:45:27AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > > even > > > > when portions are copyright other people/entities. > > > > > If there is a hint

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:01:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:45:27AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > even > > > when portions are copyright other people/entities. > > > If there is a hint to distrust what people claim about their work, > > I see no way how a ju

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:29:52PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:51:55PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > > A copyright statement does not, by itself, say anything about the license > > > of > > > the work. Since Illustrator is frequently used for producing output files

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:45:27AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > even > > when portions are copyright other people/entities. > If there is a hint to distrust what people claim about their work, > I see no way how a judge could believe a "But I was told it is" if one > did not at least check w

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek [120731 22:35]: > Correct but irrelevant. No one here has provided any evidence one way or > the other about whether Adobe has given a license. > > The sensible *default* assumption is that when an upstream asserts that the > license on their work is $foo, they know what they're

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:51:55PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > A copyright statement does not, by itself, say anything about the license of > > the work. Since Illustrator is frequently used for producing output files > > that are expected to be distributed, it would be reasonable to assume tha

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Wild
On 07/31/2012 09:51 PM, Bart Martens wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25:32PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Hi Michael, >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Michael Wild wrote: >> >>> I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe >>> Illustrator and hence c

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25:32PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Michael Wild wrote: > > > I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe > > Illustrator and hence contains postscript library code that is > > copy

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:25:44PM +0200, Michael Wild wrote: > On 07/31/2012 09:17 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Michael Wild wrote: > >> Strange thing is, most of it is simply boilerplate that is not even > >> used. Running it through eps2eps (a ghostscript wrapper) br

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michael, On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Michael Wild wrote: > I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe > Illustrator and hence contains postscript library code that is > copyrighted by Adobe, e.g.: > * Copyright(C)2000-2006 Adobe Systems, Inc. All Rig

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Wild
On 07/31/2012 09:17 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Michael Wild wrote: > >> I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe >> Illustrator and hence contains postscript library code that is >> copyrighted by Adobe, e.g.: > ... >> Does this make the

Re: Non-free postscript code in EPS image

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Michael Wild wrote: > I'm maintaining a package that contains an EPS image created with Adobe > Illustrator and hence contains postscript library code that is > copyrighted by Adobe, e.g.: ... > Does this make the file non-redistributable and non-DFSG free? If not,