Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:33:59PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > >>>I don't think many people are seriously advocating that the DFSG only >>>applies to restrictions made under copyright law. >> >>In that thread, several people suggested that a restriction such as "You >>may

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 01:42:03AM -0700, tom said > Maybe I should know much about buld_deb packaging, but from what I can > read from mozilla [0], dealing with logos and trademark are allowed if > there is no change in the code. Building a .deb is a change of the > code, or is just an adaptation

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-15 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:33:59PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > I don't think many people are seriously advocating that the DFSG only > > applies to restrictions made under copyright law. > > In that thread, several people suggested that a restriction such as "You > may not use this logo, or an

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-15 Thread Josh Triplett
Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 06:18:08AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: >>Andrew Suffield wrote: >>>On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: >>> Are there any other examples of restrictions placed on open-source licenses that Debian has had to deal with

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 06:18:08AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > > > >>Are there any other examples of restrictions placed on open-source licenses > >>that Debian has had to deal with in the past? When a p

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > >>Are there any other examples of restrictions placed on open-source licenses >>that Debian has had to deal with in the past? When a package is resricted >>by trademark usage, does Debian have a policy to e

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > Has anyone at Debian sought permission from the Mozilla Organization to use > the Mozilla trademarks in its packages? In your legal opinions, would it > make a substantive difference? To my knowledge, no one associated with the Moz

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-09-09 06:30:55 +0100 Paul C. Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone at Debian sought permission from the Mozilla Organization to use the Mozilla trademarks in its packages? In your legal opinions, would it make a substantive difference? I feel that Debian uses MF's trademarks t

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > Are there any other examples of restrictions placed on open-source licenses > that Debian has had to deal with in the past? When a package is resricted > by trademark usage, does Debian have a policy to effectively deal with it? Th

Re: Debian and Mozilla Trademarks

2004-09-09 Thread tom
Maybe I should know much about buld_deb packaging, but from what I can read from mozilla [0], dealing with logos and trademark are allowed if there is no change in the code. Building a .deb is a change of the code, or is just an adaptation best fitable for a different platform? In the former cas