Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-29 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 04:34:15PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Richard Braakman wrote: > > > We usually allow some time for license issues to be resolved. In the > > > extreme case of KDE it was more than a year :) > > > > You forget: KDE was removed from the archive dur

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-28 Thread Richard Braakman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 04:34:15PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Richard Braakman wrote: > > We usually allow some time for license issues to be resolved. In the > > extreme case of KDE it was more than a year :) > > You forget: KDE was removed from the archive during that time. No, I'm specifically

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Braakman wrote: > We usually allow some time for license issues to be resolved. In the > extreme case of KDE it was more than a year :) You forget: KDE was removed from the archive during that time. -- see shy jo

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-25 Thread Walter Landry
> begin Sam Hartman quotation of Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 03:54:38AM -0400: > > > We should also talk to the linux-kernel folks and strongly encourage > > them to produce a DFSG free kernel, splitting out any non-free parts > > if necessary. > > What's the deal with drivers/net/bsd_comp.c anyway? U

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Don Marti
begin Sam Hartman quotation of Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 03:54:38AM -0400: > We should also talk to the linux-kernel folks and strongly encourage > them to produce a DFSG free kernel, splitting out any non-free parts > if necessary. What's the deal with drivers/net/bsd_comp.c anyway? Unisys isn't ex

RE: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Adam J. Richter
>> i wonder if it would be worth speaking with the people from keyspan/etc. and >> explaining the problem to them? who knows - an appropriately worded message >> (or 10) would probably convince them to release it under a less restrictive >> license. the code itself isn't very useful is it? then aga

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Richard" == Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> If you wish to encourage dialog with the vendor, then by Richard> all means start dialoguing :-) Nothing will happen unless Richard> someone steps up to fix this, and the more voices the Richard> better, I th

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:04:06PM -0600, Walter Landry wrote: > is DFSG compliant or GPL-compatible or not. This also means that > Debian can't even distribute the original source tar-ball. Debian has > no permission at all. If no one complains, I'll file bugs against > > kernel-source-2.4.0 >

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 03:31:45PM +1000, Sam Johnston wrote: > I'm usually a big fan of pedantic correctness, and yes, in retrospect having > it in main is a cause for concern. My intention was to encourage dialog with > the vendor rather than immediately removing it, not necessarily to encourage

RE: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Walter Landry
> i wonder if it would be worth speaking with the people from keyspan/etc. and > explaining the problem to them? who knows - an appropriately worded message > (or 10) would probably convince them to release it under a less restrictive > license. the code itself isn't very useful is it? then again i

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Walter Landry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:49:43 -0700 > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:04:06PM -0600, Walter Landry wrote: > > Adam J. Richter wrote: > > Linus's Linux kernel releases from 2.3.5

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread idalton
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:04:06PM -0600, Walter Landry wrote: > Adam J. Richter wrote: > Linus's Linux kernel releases from 2.3.50 through the latest > test release (2.4.4-pre6) contain GPL-incompatible "firmware" images > for "EZUSB" devices in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h, which >

RE: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread Sam Johnston
> Debian always follows the licenses, and that pedantic correctness is an attractive factor for many of us. I'm usually a big fan of pedantic correctness, and yes, in retrospect having it in main is a cause for concern. My intention was to encourage dialog with the vendor rather than immediately r

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-23 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:13:48PM +1000, Sam Johnston wrote: > i'd be inclined to leave the kernel source alone as if it's ok for AC then > it should be ok for us too. That has _never_ been Debian's policy. > i don't think there's much risk in doing this as > about the worst that is likely to

RE: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-23 Thread Sam Johnston
to go download a few bytes of firmware from X, and recompile a module or the kernel itself). - samj -Original Message- From: Walter Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 2:04 PM To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drive

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-23 Thread Walter Landry
Adam J. Richter wrote: Linus's Linux kernel releases from 2.3.50 through the latest test release (2.4.4-pre6) contain GPL-incompatible "firmware" images for "EZUSB" devices in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h, which are #included into drivers which contain GPL'ed code, even when compil