Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX

2002-08-22 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Well, could we get any consensus on this issue? Best regards, 2002/8/23 -- Debian Developer & Debian JP Developer - much more I18N of Debian Atsuhito Kohda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Department of Math., Tokushima Univ.

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 01:01:44AM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: > (I've rather gotten the impression that the DFSG is like the Torah > (even though the text is not necessarily final yet) and debian-legal > is like the ongoing compilation of the Talmud, but having Methuselah > around opens up some n

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 02:48:35PM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: > You're avoiding the question. You didn't ask one (except for one which you admitted was off-topic). > >Therefore, I reject your analysis. > > Saying so perhaps makes you feel better, but it doesn't make the analysis > go away. Co

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-10 Thread Lars Hellström
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:11:36 +0300, Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: >> I suggest that this interpretation of "name" here is at best an implausible >> one. For one thing the word "name" has a number of interpretations, as it

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-10 Thread Lars Hellström
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:15:19 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: >> If you think such a license is non-free because the newfoobar in the first >> argument of \ProvidesPackage is "functional" then it would be inconsistent

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-08 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: > I suggest that this interpretation of "name" here is at best an implausible > one. For one thing the word "name" has a number of interpretations, as it > is a very general term. If your legalistic interpretation really was all > that

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Lars Hellström wrote: > If you think such a license is non-free because the newfoobar in the first > argument of \ProvidesPackage is "functional" then it would be inconsistent > to not declare as non-free also a license that only requires a version > number

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Lars Hellström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1] On a completely off-topic matter, shouldn't that rather be "your > wanting it to be so", with a possesive pronoun and the -ing form of the > verb? Perhaps someone natively English-speaking can clarify this; I suspect > it could be a matter on the l

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-08 Thread Lars Hellström
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:10:12 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:53:20AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:33:37AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: >> > I repeat: the file renaming requirement is not DFSG-free, and you >> > wanting it

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:53:20AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:33:37AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I repeat: the file renaming requirement is not DFSG-free, and you > > wanting it to be so will not make it so. DFSG 4 does not permit it. > > 4. Integrity of Th

Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:33:37AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I repeat: the file renaming requirement is not DFSG-free, and you > wanting it to be so will not make it so. DFSG 4 does not permit it. 4. Integrity of The Author's Source Code The license may restrict source-code from be