Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-04-03 Thread MJ Ray
Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MJRay, may we have your comments too? Olivier sent me copies of some > off-list discussion in which you tend to agree that new license is ok > for Debian. Nice to learn that copyright infringement is alive and well(!) In short, I think it technically meets the

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-04-03 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Francesco Poli wrote: > A package that includes a part which is licensed in a non-free > manner does *not* comply with the DFSG. I cannot extract that part > of FlameRobin source code (namely the IBPP C++ classes) and > exercise the freedoms the DFSG guarantee. Therefore, FlameRobin > does not

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-04-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:00:25 +0300 Damyan Ivanov wrote: > I beleive this is not a problem, since the > FlameRobin package would satisfy both licensing (original Expath and > this modified thingy - the IBPP license) and the Social contract. I > mention SC, because of this text: "We promise that the

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-04-01 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:48:53 +0300 Damyan Ivanov wrote: >>Please bear in mind >>that IBPP is really to be used in FlameRobin's packaging, not by >>itself. > > I see, but imagine which permissions someone would get, if he/she wa

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-04-01 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Triplett wrote: > Damyan Ivanov wrote: > >>=== The problematic? clause === >>Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or >>organization (”You”) obtaining a copy of this software and associated >>documentation fi

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-31 Thread Josh Triplett
Damyan Ivanov wrote: > === The problematic? clause === > Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or > organization (”You”) obtaining a copy of this software and associated > documentation files covered by this license (the “Software”) to use > the Software as par

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-31 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:48:53 +0300 Damyan Ivanov wrote: [...] > Francesco Poli wrote: > > What if I want to modify the library itself and distribute the > > result by itself? > > This is not permitted, AFAIU. Then, I don't think the library can be considered DFSG-free... > > > Why have I to be

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
=== The problematic? clause === Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or organization (”You”) obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files covered by this license (the “Software”) to use the Software as part of another work; to modify i

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:03:53 +0300 Damyan Ivanov wrote: > Hi, Jacobo, > > Jacobo Tarrio wrote: [...] > > It allows to modify the library if it is needed to make it work > > with other > > piece of software ("for that purpose" == "to use the Software as > > part of another work"), but that wordi

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Hi, Jacobo, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 a las 16:33:59 +0300, Damyan Ivanov escribía: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or organization (???You???) obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files covered by this license (th

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 a las 16:33:59 +0300, Damyan Ivanov escribía: > Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or > organization (???You???) obtaining a copy of this software and associated > documentation files covered by this license (the ???Software???) to use > the

RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Hi, This is the third time I bring here this software's license. It is changed again, due to my and this list's concerns about the last license it used. (A brief summary) IBPP is a library that is intented to be included in other programs sources, i.e. to be used as part of other projects, not to