Anthony Towns writes:
> On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 05:25:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > > 3) Would anyone be willing to help with souch a complaint?
> > Send it to the FSF's gpl enforcement team.
>
> I'm lost. Why are we arguing and going to "enforcement teams" instead
> of just offe
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 06:37:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 05:25:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > > 3) Would anyone be willing to help with souch a complaint?
> > Send it to the FSF's gpl enforcement team.
>
> I'm lost. Why are we arguing and going to "en
On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 05:25:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > 3) Would anyone be willing to help with souch a complaint?
> Send it to the FSF's gpl enforcement team.
I'm lost. Why are we arguing and going to "enforcement teams" instead
of just offering to host the Knoppix source on s
Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1) My interpretation of the GPL is correct, isn't it? I'm fairly certain on
> this one.
Yes.
> 2) Am I being excessively unreasonable to complain to the authors
>about this GPL violation if it is actually getting in my way and
>making my life i
Hello everyone,
I think it is time for me to unsubscribe from this list, since the
discussion went into personal interpretations/opinions/beliefs about
the "right" way to interpret the GPL, rather than bringing new
insights.
As a summary, I hope the fact has been made clear that a written
(and, w
Klaus Knopper:
>> Is nobody gettng tired of this topic? I thought we already cleared
>> things up. The written offer is present on each CD, which complies
>> to the GPL. I have an email from Dave Turner from the FSF stating
>> that Knoppix IS in compliance with the GPL. Is there anything more
>> t
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 12:41:56AM +0200, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 01:37:15PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:30:43AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > > > > Technically, I'm not even actively distributing
Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 01:37:15PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:30:43AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > > > > Technically, I'm not even actively distributing any software at any
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 01:37:15PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:30:43AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > > > Technically, I'm not even actively distributing any software at any
> > > > time.
> > > > The mirrors are downloading
Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:30:43AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > > Technically, I'm not even actively distributing any software at any time.
> > > The mirrors are downloading and distributing it without any action
> > > initiated by me. Or magazines publ
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:30:43AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Technically, I'm not even actively distributing any software at any time.
> > The mirrors are downloading and distributing it without any action
> > initiated by me. Or magazines publish Knoppix, in some cases even
> > without askin
Klaus Knopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 03:56:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > > > > > date of this CD-Rom."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this good enough? Shouldn't it be date of distribution?
> > > > >
> > > > > So, where ca
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 06:48:36AM +0200, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 08:59:45PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > >
> > > For those who would prefer paragraph a), please consider the fact that
> > > a CD that consists 3/4 of only source code may not be a very popular
> > > t
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 03:56:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > > > > date of this CD-Rom."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this good enough? Shouldn't it be date of distribution?
> > > >
> > > > So, where can I get the sources of emacs version 1.0?
> > >
> > >
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 07:09:45AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 06:18:59AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
On 20030428T152631+0200, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> technically, if you demand that they keep obsolete sources for 3 years
> or longer, there would be no mirror left willing to keep old software
> that long.
The three-year requirement does not apply if sources are distributed
along the binaries (offer
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 07:09:45AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 06:18:59AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Since this is a genuine open source project, subject t
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 06:18:59AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> >
> > > "Since this is a genuine open source project, subject to the GNU General
> > > Public License, the source code for the KNOPPIX-spec
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 06:18:59AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
>
> > "Since this is a genuine open source project, subject to the GNU General
> > Public License, the source code for the KNOPPIX-specific packages is
> > available via the Internet at h
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 08:59:45PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> >
> > For those who would prefer paragraph a), please consider the fact that
> > a CD that consists 3/4 of only source code may not be a very popular
> > thing for the majority of potential users, and also CD-magazines and
> > F
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> "Since this is a genuine open source project, subject to the GNU General
> Public License, the source code for the KNOPPIX-specific packages is
> available via the Internet at http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/sources/.
> You may find the sources for the
>
> For those who would prefer paragraph a), please consider the fact that
> a CD that consists 3/4 of only source code may not be a very popular
> thing for the majority of potential users, and also CD-magazines and
> FTP mirrors try to avoid stuff that is not likely to EVER being used
> or downlo
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 07:40:58PM -0500, Darryl Palmer wrote:
> 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under
> Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections
> 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
>
> a) Accompany it w
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 05:54:15PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Oliver" == Oliver M Bolzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Oliver> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:39:32AM -0400, Sam Hartman
> Oliver> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> >> I believe that the Knoppix CD is violating the GPL
On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Darryl Palmer wrote:
> Looking at the GPL it has this statement:
>
> 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under
> Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections
> 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the follow
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 07:40:58PM -0500, Darryl Palmer wrote:
> 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under
> Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections
> 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
> a) Accompany it wit
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 07:40:58PM -0500, Darryl Palmer wrote:
> c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to
> distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only
> for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in
Looking at the GPL it has this statement:
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under
Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections
1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding
> "Oliver" == Oliver M Bolzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Oliver> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:39:32AM -0400, Sam Hartman
Oliver> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
>> I believe that the Knoppix CD is violating the GPL by not
>> distributing source code to GPL packages that they distr
On 20030427T095714+0200, Oliver M. Bolzer wrote:
> To my knowledge Klaus Knopper has repeatedly stated that he would send
> the source to anyone if they sent him the needed number of blank CD-Rs.
> IMHO that's a reasonable way to distribute source, though slightly
> inconvenient. The blank CD-Rs w
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:39:32AM -0400, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote...
>
> I believe that the Knoppix CD is violating the GPL by not distributing
> source code to GPL packages that they distribute. In particular, I looked
> at http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html#license and
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