Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 01:08:21PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:25:45PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Other than that issue, I think this would nicely address Debian's needs. > > > > I'm pleased to see MySQL AB taking this step to clarify the license of > > > >

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, David B Harris wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, what do they want to allow, and what don't they want to allow? > > > > > > I think it's pretty clear they're looking for a Sleepycat arrangement; > > > free for Free Software, go to them if you wa

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:28:31PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Branden Robinson wrote: > > >> Except that the LGPL permits use of the code in ways that MySQL does > > >> not > > >> want to allow. > > > > > > Well, what do they want to allow, and what

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-09 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:28:31 +1000 (EST) Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, what do they want to allow, and what don't they want to allow? > > > > I think it's pretty clear they're looking for a Sleepycat arrangement; > > free for Free Software, go to them if you want alternate

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Joe Drew wrote: > On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Branden Robinson wrote: > >> Except that the LGPL permits use of the code in ways that MySQL does > >> not > >> want to allow. > > > > Well, what do they want to allow, and what don't they want to allow? > > I think i

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-09 Thread Joe Drew
On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Branden Robinson wrote: Except that the LGPL permits use of the code in ways that MySQL does not want to allow. Well, what do they want to allow, and what don't they want to allow? I think it's pretty clear they're looking for a Sleepycat arrangement;

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:54:46PM -, MJ Ray wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What happens if OSI ever decides to yank their approval from a license, > > what happens then? > > Do OSI have any process to fix their goofs? (APSL...) Maybe they do not feel it is possibl

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:25:45PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Other than that issue, I think this would nicely address Debian's needs. > > > I'm pleased to see MySQL AB taking this step to clarify the license of > > > the client libraries. > > > It seems at that point that it would be easi

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:33:29PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Of course, as was pointed out several times in the recent OSD/DFSG > convergence flamewar, the OSD (or DFSG) is not really well suited as a > basis for having a day in court, but that is another issue. It is for that reason that I

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread MJ Ray
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What happens if OSI ever decides to yank their approval from a license, > what happens then? Do OSI have any process to fix their goofs? (APSL...)

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:51:31PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: > >> > Would it be reasonable to ask them to "snapshot" the OSI license list >> > with every release? This would ensure that the permission to link isn't >> > retroactively revoked by a

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:51:31PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: > > Would it be reasonable to ask them to "snapshot" the OSI license list > > with every release? This would ensure that the permission to link isn't > > retroactively revoked by a third party, while saving MySQL AB the work > > of

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian T. Sniffen) > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Would it be reasonable to ask them to "snapshot" the OSI license list > > with every release? > The contributors would each need to assent to each change of the list, or > assign copyright to MySQL, or

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:25:51AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 10:39:23AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: >> > Attached and below you'll find the recent plans of MySQL regarding >> > their licenses. I would think that this

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:25:51AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 10:39:23AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Attached and below you'll find the recent plans of MySQL regarding > > their licenses. I would think that this is sufficient for the > > Debian project. If not

Re: MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 10:39:23AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > Attached and below you'll find the recent plans of MySQL regarding > their licenses. I would think that this is sufficient for the > Debian project. If not please scream loud now! :-) [...] > > Here is our initial plan to fix the

MySQL licensing and OpenSSL linking issues

2003-06-06 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Attached and below you'll find the recent plans of MySQL regarding their licenses. I would think that this is sufficient for the Debian project. If not please scream loud now! :-) bye, -christian- / mysql maintainer > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:42:42 -0600 > From: Zak Greant <[EMAIL PROTECT