Re: License review request

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Sean Kellogg wrote: >> Just a quick chirp from a d-l lurker with a JD that the above is a pretty >> common concept in consumer protection type laws and, as referenced, the >> UCC. > > Thanks for your input. > >> I did some focus group research for Microsoft a few years

Re: License review request

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Andrew Donnellan wrote: >> Of course that doesn't mean it's not required, just that the evidence >> given was irrelevant. I've seen most places do it and lawyers >> recommending it and so on, and as it is a legal disclaimer I think it >> would be wise to use emphasised t

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Ryan Finnie wrote: > Walter, > > Thank you for your comments (everybody else too). Sorry for not > following up sooner; please see question below. > > On 9/27/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked for help wi

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Ryan Finnie wrote: > Greetings, > > I responded to an RFP[0] for packaging magic-smtpd[1], and need some > help on the legal side. I see 3 issues here: > > 1. The license[2], also included below, has not been reviewed by the > OSI, and is not used in any existing Debian package. The company >

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-10-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Ryan Finnie wrote: > On 9/27/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This looks like forced *public* availability and a 12-month > >> retainer, which I think is both a significant cost (so not free > >> redistribution) and maybe a

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-10-16 Thread luna
Hello, On Monday 16 October 2006, à 00:53:36, Ryan Finnie wrote: > On 9/27/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked for help with: > >> > (c) You must make Source Code of all Your Deployed Modifications > >> > publ

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-10-16 Thread Ryan Finnie
Walter, Thank you for your comments (everybody else too). Sorry for not following up sooner; please see question below. On 9/27/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked for help with: > > (c) You must make Source Cod

Re: License review request

2006-10-02 Thread Robinson Tryon
Those links are dead for me. I found some other urls in /misc -- are they the same license? (in the future, please include the full text of licenses in the body of email requests -- urls often change, but debian-legal is archived all over the place) http://sparcs.kaist.ac.kr/~tinuviel/misc/lowe

Re: License review request

2006-10-01 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Sean Kellogg wrote: > Just a quick chirp from a d-l lurker with a JD that the above is a pretty > common concept in consumer protection type laws and, as referenced, the UCC. Thanks for your input. > I did some focus group research for Microsoft a few years back where > they were experimentin

Re: License review request

2006-10-01 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 01 October 2006 01:58, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Laws like the Uniform Commercial Code do require that disclaimers > of warranty be "by a writing and conspicuous". > http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/article2.htm#s2-316 Just a quick chirp from a d-l lurker with a JD that the above is a p

Re: License review request

2006-10-01 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Donnellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course that doesn't mean it's not required, just that the evidence > given was irrelevant. I've seen most places do it and lawyers > recommending it and so on, and as it is a legal disclaimer I think it > would be wise to use emphasised text, at leas

Re: License review request

2006-10-01 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 10/1/06, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I suppose you could be equally conspicuous with boldface or differently colored text. The problem is, as far as the lawyers are concerned, all caps seems to work just fine. Why use something different? At best, the court will rule it's just

Re: License review request

2006-10-01 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Andrew Donnellan wrote: > Of course that doesn't mean it's not required, just that the evidence > given was irrelevant. I've seen most places do it and lawyers > recommending it and so on, and as it is a legal disclaimer I think it > would be wise to use emphasised text, at least put asterisks arou

Re: License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, 2006-01-10 at 10:54 +0900, Sanghyeon Seo wrote: > I am intending to some of my codes licensed under MIT license to the > new license of my devising. I would like to have it reviewed. Will this code be going into Debian? > I am deadly serious. No, you're not. The license itself says that

Re: License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 10/1/06, Andrew Donnellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/1/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What jurisdictions are these? The only anecdotal explanation I've ever > heard for capsturbation in warranty disclaimers, at least in the US, is that > someone did it once and lawyers

Re: License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 10/1/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What jurisdictions are these? The only anecdotal explanation I've ever heard for capsturbation in warranty disclaimers, at least in the US, is that someone did it once and lawyers live in a monkey-see, monkey-do universe. I believe someone

Re: License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:43:43PM +1000, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > On 10/1/06, Sanghyeon Seo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hello, debian-legal! > >I am intending to some of my codes licensed under MIT license to the > >new license of my devising. I would like to have it reviewed. > >I am deadly

Re: License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 10/1/06, Sanghyeon Seo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, debian-legal! I am intending to some of my codes licensed under MIT license to the new license of my devising. I would like to have it reviewed. I am deadly serious. Link to the full text: http://sparcs.kaist.ac.kr/~tinuviel/temp/lowe

License review request

2006-09-30 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
Hello, debian-legal! I am intending to some of my codes licensed under MIT license to the new license of my devising. I would like to have it reviewed. I am deadly serious. Link to the full text: http://sparcs.kaist.ac.kr/~tinuviel/temp/lowercased (in plain text) http://sparcs.kaist.ac.kr/~tinu

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-27 Thread Walter Landry
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked for help with: > > (c) You must make Source Code of all Your Deployed Modifications > > publicly available under the terms of this License, including the > > license grants set forth in Section 3 below, for as long as you Dep

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-27 Thread MJ Ray
Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked for help with: > 1. The license[2], also included below, has not been reviewed by the > OSI, and is not used in any existing Debian package. The company > itself considers it "open source", but I feel I am not qualified to > make a determination. I will comme

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-26 Thread Ben Finney
"Ryan Finnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2. The software is designed to replace certain components of qmail, > which is wholly non-free. Can it perform its function in the absence of qmail? Perhaps in the presence of another MTA which is free? > Even if the license is clean, does this make th

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 10:04:28PM -0700, Ryan Finnie wrote: > Greetings, > > I responded to an RFP[0] for packaging magic-smtpd[1], and need some > help on the legal side. I see 3 issues here: > > 1. The license[2], also included below, has not been reviewed by the > OSI, and is not used in any

License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-26 Thread Ryan Finnie
Greetings, I responded to an RFP[0] for packaging magic-smtpd[1], and need some help on the legal side. I see 3 issues here: 1. The license[2], also included below, has not been reviewed by the OSI, and is not used in any existing Debian package. The company itself considers it "open source",