Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:41:12 +0100 Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Francesco Poli escribe: > > As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on > > CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people > > disagree with me, though. > > Maybe a big part of the pr

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Francesco Poli escribe: > As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on > CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people > disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is that licenses which are ok for documentation or software works are not

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:21:34 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > [...] I also believe that a large number of debian-legal > > participants have said that the DRM clause, as it stands, is free > > enough to allow distribution under DRM if such DRM is not > > "ef

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:35:57 -0500 Evan Prodromou wrote: [...] > That includes the amended revocation and > attribution clauses that Francesco is concerned with; we thought they > were sufficiently softened that they were not an effective prevention > of licensors exercising their freedom. A soft

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:56:47 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres > wrote: > > > Julien Cristau escribe: > > > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free > > > > Why exactly!? > > See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I >

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Julien Cristau escribe: > > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free > > Why exactly!? See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I think the same problems apply to 2.5). Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Julien Cristau escribe: > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? pgpQT25CqkVgT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 08:34:30 +0100, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at > dogmazic.net. > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free, CC-by 3.0 is probably ok, IIRC. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. Thank you, that's a clear answer. Now I can go ahead! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Mathieu Stumpf escribe: > Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is > there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept > in the main repository? > AFAIK CC-by would allow it. > Please make a short and clear answer. :) Hopefully mine is. :) No

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My opinion is based on the contribution of debian-legal participants, of > the workgroup participants, and of my own review of the licenses. I don't doubt that. However, that's still your opinion rather than the Workgroup's. I don't mean anything bad by that.

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? Please make a short and clear answer. :)

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:32:44 + Andrew Saunders wrote: > On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear > > from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any > > CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Oth

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2007-06-03 at 10:06 +, MJ Ray wrote: > > In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or "archive maintainer", if > > you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup > > which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] > > I think [3]'s the opinion

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or "archive maintainer", if > you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup > which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the Wor

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. You didn't find any "final answer"

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:42:49 +0100 Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > Okay, I'm planning to make some maps for stepmanie[1], but I would > like to map songs that will have no legal problem to be include in > Debian. I really appreciate that you thought about this aspect *before* doing all the work (that is t

Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Okay, I'm planning to make some maps for stepmanie[1], but I would like to map songs that will have no legal problem to be include in Debian. So I red some threads but I didn't find any final answer, are CC 3.0[2] (and which one?) and free art license okay with the DFSG[3]? Regards etc. [1] htt