Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2011-01-23 Thread Francesco Poli
d topics. > but the > question remains to include Kalle's design in a package like > installation-guide. Good question: in that case, it would be greatly appreciated if Kalle's design were licensed under GPL-v2-compatible terms. > > Kalle, would it be OK for you to publi

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2011-01-23 Thread Francesco Poli
ther Types of Works”: “We > don't take the position that artistic or entertainment works must be > free, but if you want to make one free, we recommend the Free Art License.” This is known and not so relevant as it may seem: the Debian Project is not the FSF and the FSF is not the Debian

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2011-01-22 Thread David Prévot
the license included with Kalle's work the English or the French one ? It links to the English version on this terms: Copyleft : This work is free, you can copy, spread, and modify it under the terms of the Free Art License http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ but according to the Licen

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2011-01-19 Thread Simon Chopin
Hi ! On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:48:32PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: [...] > >> 5. COMPATIBILITY > >> A license is compatible with the Free Art License provided: > >> it gives the right to copy, distribute, and modify copies of the work > >> including for comme

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2011-01-19 Thread David Prévot
the position that artistic or entertainment works must be free, but if you want to make one free, we recommend the Free Art License.” This license is about artistic work, is initially written in French, and as such is under French right and valid in countries that signed the Berne Convention for

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
f...@firenze.linux.it wrote: >Nobody seemed to disagree with this conclusion. Please do not mistake lack of interest in your ramblings with consensus. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:55:44 +0530 Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Francesco Poli writes: > > > This might forbid anonymous works or anonymous modifications, > > which is non-free, IMO. > > Why so? Which is the part you're asking clarifications about? If you are asking "why might this forbid anonymo

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-26 Thread Ben Finney
paiva...@gmail.com (Mahesh T. Pai) writes: > Francesco Poli writes: > > > This might forbid anonymous works or anonymous modifications, > > which is non-free, IMO. > > Why so? I believe http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html#dissident> applies. -- \ “In the long run, th

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-26 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
oved with respect to the >corresponding one in the Free Art License version 1.2. However, I >am still a little concerned that this could mean that, in order to >distribute a work under this license, I am required, as long as I go >on distributing, to keep updated information on where recipients

Re: Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-25 Thread Francesco Poli
ents. As usual, IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. (If these disclaimers are useless/not-enough/ludicrous/awkward/whatever, please come to an agreed conclusion on what a poor contributor should do in order to participate in this mailing list discussions!) > Free Art License 1.3 [...] > 2.2 F

Analysis of the Free Art License 1.3

2009-01-25 Thread Francesco Poli
Hello everyone, back on April 2006, we discussed the Free Art License version 1.2: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/04/msg00257.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/04/msg00259.html My own conclusion was that this license seemed to be *intended* to be a free copyleft one (but

Re: Free Art License

2008-02-24 Thread MJ Ray
Mathieu Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The already a discution[1] which was opened about this license, but I > didn't find if this license is DFSG complient. I have reviewed the discussion of http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/09/msg00132.html In my opinion, this license: + permits free redi

Free Art License

2008-02-18 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Hi! The already a discution[1] which was opened about this license, but I didn't find if this license is DFSG complient. Also note that the current french version is 1.3 while in english only 1.2 version seems available. If you know french, you should look at 1.3. [1] http://lists.debian.org/de

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:41:12 +0100 Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Francesco Poli escribe: > > As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on > > CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people > > disagree with me, though. > > Maybe a big part of the pr

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Francesco Poli escribe: > As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on > CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people > disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is that licenses which are ok for documentation or software works are not

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:21:34 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > [...] I also believe that a large number of debian-legal > > participants have said that the DRM clause, as it stands, is free > > enough to allow distribution under DRM if such DRM is not > > "ef

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:35:57 -0500 Evan Prodromou wrote: [...] > That includes the amended revocation and > attribution clauses that Francesco is concerned with; we thought they > were sufficiently softened that they were not an effective prevention > of licensors exercising their freedom. A soft

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:56:47 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres > wrote: > > > Julien Cristau escribe: > > > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free > > > > Why exactly!? > > See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I >

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Julien Cristau escribe: > > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free > > Why exactly!? See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I think the same problems apply to 2.5). Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Julien Cristau escribe: > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? pgpQT25CqkVgT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 08:34:30 +0100, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at > dogmazic.net. > CC-* before 3.0 are non-free, CC-by 3.0 is probably ok, IIRC. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. Thank you, that's a clear answer. Now I can go ahead! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Mathieu Stumpf escribe: > Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is > there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept > in the main repository? > AFAIK CC-by would allow it. > Please make a short and clear answer. :) Hopefully mine is. :) No

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My opinion is based on the contribution of debian-legal participants, of > the workgroup participants, and of my own review of the licenses. I don't doubt that. However, that's still your opinion rather than the Workgroup's. I don't mean anything bad by that.

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? Please make a short and clear answer. :)

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:32:44 + Andrew Saunders wrote: > On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear > > from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any > > CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Oth

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2007-06-03 at 10:06 +, MJ Ray wrote: > > In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or "archive maintainer", if > > you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup > > which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] > > I think [3]'s the opinion

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or "archive maintainer", if > you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup > which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the Wor

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. You didn't find any "final answer"

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
work (that is to say, before it's too late...). > > So I red some threads but I didn't find any final answer, are CC > 3.0[2] (and which one?) and free art license okay with the DFSG[3]? > > Regards etc. > > [1] http://www.stepmania.com/ > [2] http://lists.de

Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Okay, I'm planning to make some maps for stepmanie[1], but I would like to map songs that will have no legal problem to be include in Debian. So I red some threads but I didn't find any final answer, are CC 3.0[2] (and which one?) and free art license okay with the DFSG[3]? Regard

Re: Free Art License

2006-05-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 04 May 2006 09:08:24 +0200 Frank Küster wrote: > Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It *does* mean you would be forever required to keep updated > > information on where recipients can access the original artwork. > > > > (For the Mona Lisa, the answer would be The Louvre.

Re: Free Art License

2006-05-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 4 May 2006 02:09:51 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Mon, 1 May 2006 15:18:32 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > > There is a license called the Free Art license, I

Re: Free Art License

2006-05-04 Thread Frank Küster
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It *does* mean you would be forever required to keep updated information on > where recipients can access the original artwork. > > (For the Mona Lisa, the answer would be The Louvre.) > > The freeness of this is arguable. I think it's supposed to be

Re: Free Art License

2006-05-03 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 2006 15:18:32 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > > > is DFSG-free. > > > > I

Re: Free Art License

2006-05-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 1 May 2006 15:18:32 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > > is DFSG-free. > > I believe that it is. If you do, could you please

Free Art License

2006-05-01 Thread Nathanael Nerode
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > is DFSG-free. I believe that it is. However, it is not a very appropriate license for all-digital works. It is specifically designed to address physic

Re: Free Art License [was: Re: [Fwd: Re: gnome-themes and licensing]]

2006-04-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 28 avril 2006 à 10:33 +1000, Andrew Donnellan a écrit : > Section 8 - French law - seems to make it non-free by DFSG standards. We've never considered choice of law as non-free. Such clauses are considered moot in most juridictions anyway. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/

Re: Free Art License [was: Re: [Fwd: Re: gnome-themes and licensing]]

2006-04-27 Thread Andrew Donnellan
wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > > is DFSG-free. > > Here's the text, taken from http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ > > > > Free Art License >

Re: Free Art License

2006-04-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:15:28 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > > is DFSG-free. > > Here's the text, taken from http://artlibre.

Free Art License [was: Re: [Fwd: Re: gnome-themes and licensing]]

2006-04-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:54:53 +1000 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > There is a license called the Free Art license, I don't know if that > is DFSG-free. Here's the text, taken from http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ Free Art License [ Copyleft Attitude ] version 1.2 Preamble :

Re: Free Art License

2004-10-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:28:18AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-10-01 01:16:29 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>"I consider the preferred form for modifying this program" > >which is exactly the form of my examples: "I consider C code to be the > >preferred form for modi

Re: Free Art License

2004-10-01 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-10-01 01:16:29 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "I consider the preferred form for modifying this program" which is exactly the form of my examples: "I consider C code to be the preferred form for modifying this program" [...] I think you should look again at your o

Re: Definitions of object code [Re: Free Art License]

2004-10-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 01:28:39AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 21:25, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:24:46PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > > I've a number of documents that say "References to "object code" and > > > "executables" in the GNU GPL are to

Definitions of object code [Re: Free Art License]

2004-10-01 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 21:25, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:24:46PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > How do you feel about specifying what is *not* the preferred form of > > modification ("object code", in GPL parlance)? > > It's likely to cause problems, too. > > > I've a numbe

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:24:46PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > How do you feel about specifying what is *not* the preferred form of > modification ("object code", in GPL parlance)? It's likely to cause problems, too. > I've a number of documents that say "References to "object code" and > "exec

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 22:27, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:24:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > >The source is defined as "The source code for a work means the > > >preferred > > >form of the work for making modifications to it." > > > > > >It's not always clear what the preferred

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 01:09:36AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-10-01 00:37:18 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >If so, then I have no idea what you meant; please be more specific > >(ie. > >give an example). [...] > > I gave an example in my previous email and you quoted it.

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-10-01 00:37:18 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If so, then I have no idea what you meant; please be more specific (ie. give an example). [...] I gave an example in my previous email and you quoted it. I think either you are being obtuse, or we cannot communicate about

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 12:10:01AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-09-30 04:27:05 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:24:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > >>>It's not always clear what the preferred form of modification would > >>>be > >>>for a piece of media.

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-30 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-09-30 04:27:05 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:24:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: It's not always clear what the preferred form of modification would be for a piece of media. [...] So specify it. That's a very bad idea; it'd merely be *his* preferre

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-29 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:24:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > >The source is defined as "The source code for a work means the > >preferred > >form of the work for making modifications to it." > > > >It's not always clear what the preferred form of modification would be > >for a piece of media. [...] >

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-29 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-09-12 13:53:35 +0100 Kai Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The source is defined as "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it." It's not always clear what the preferred form of modification would be for a piece of media. [...] So sp

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 04:06:46PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > - specify to the recipient the name of the author of the originals, > Impossible for anonymous authors. I'm not so sure. Alternatively, there's no "the" name. I've a first name, middle name and family name. With initials, and

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Ingo Ruhnke wrote: > I don't think so, undocumented source there is still a good chance to > make modification, sure it might be more difficult, but I still have > everything that I need to produce the binary. With the image however I > only have the 'binary', I don't have any 'source' information

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Josh Triplett wrote: >> 7. Sub-licensing >> >> Sub-licenses are not authorized by the present license. Any person who >> wishes to make use of the rights that it confers will be directly bound >> to the author of the original work. > > This is the oddity referred to above. First of all, based o

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
First, anyone analyzing this license should note that many of the odder-sounding provisions in this license are related to physical artworks ("Originals") where modification may actually change the original. It appears that the right to copy, create modified copies, and distribute copies (modified

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Josh Triplett
m talking to think > so. Depending on the issue you have with the GPL, you might consider it acceptable to dual-license your work under both the GPL and the Free Art License (or any other license you want). If you do so, then your work will always be Free Software and DFSG-Free, even if the

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Josh Triplett
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: >> The Original (the work's source or resource): >> A dated example of the work, of its definition, of its partition or of >> its program which the originator provides as the reference for all >> future updatings, interpretations, copies or reproductions. > > wtf? This de

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Kai Blin
* Ingo Ruhnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [13/09/04, 17:21:36]: > > It depends on the specific case. In my opinion, almost all of those > > media types actually have a prefered form for modification. > > Depends, I have hardly seen any .xcf, .blend or source formats for > .ogg/.mp3 in the wild, in this

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 05:21:36PM +0200, Ingo Ruhnke wrote: > I don't think so, undocumented source there is still a good chance to > make modification, sure it might be more difficult, but I still have > everything that I need to produce the binary. With the image however I > only have the 'binar

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Ingo Ruhnke
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:58:17 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Say something like a graphical image of a button that is basically >> text + a few filters to add a 3d effect and such. If I want to >> change the actually text on the image in a meaningfull way, so that >> it fits toge

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:36:06PM +0200, Ingo Ruhnke wrote: > > (There's been a repeated conversation wrt. source distribution and the > > DFSG: what should Debian require for things like images, fonts and > > movie clips? There isn't a strong consensus, yet.) > > Why does Debian than distribute

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Kai Blin
* Ingo Ruhnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12/09/04, 23:36:06]: > If I want to change the actually text on the image in a meaningfull > way, so that it fits together with other buttons that ues the same > style, I need to know the filters and parameters that where used in > the process, however often that

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:36:06PM +0200, Ingo Ruhnke wrote: > > (There's been a repeated conversation wrt. source distribution and the > > DFSG: what should Debian require for things like images, fonts and > > movie clips? There isn't a strong consensus, yet.) > > Why does Debian than distribute

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Ingo Ruhnke wrote: > Say something like a graphical image of a button that is basically > text + a few filters to add a 3d effect and such. If I want to > change the actually text on the image in a meaningfull way, so that > it fits together with other buttons that ues the same

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Ingo Ruhnke
> For the first: if it's the form that would be used if the author wanted > to modify the image further, yes. How about stuff that is 'one-way', ie. not modifiable at all in a usefull way with todays given file formats (.xcf). Say something like a graphical image of a button that is basically tex

Re: What if source is really big? [was: Re: Free Art License]

2004-09-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is indeed an issue. > Is source still source when it grows beyond the imaginable? > But that issue is not GPL-specific, IMHO. > Are you really providing the freedoms that we value, without providing > the preferred form for modification? I think th

What if source is really big? [was: Re: Free Art License]

2004-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:53:35 +0200 Kai Blin wrote: > > I would suggest sticking to the GNU GPL. > > I cannot see what is not clear with the GPL applied to artwork... > > Well, Section 3 of the GPL allows you to copy and distribute the work > if you also distribute the source (or make it accesible

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 02:53:35PM +0200, Kai Blin wrote: > It's not always clear what the preferred form of modification would be > for a piece of media. For a picture composed of multiple layers, it's a > version with all the layers intact and seperate, but often, in the > process of working on a

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Kai Blin
* Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12/09/04, 11:42:42]: > Switching from the GPL to a GPL-incompatible license would probably > cause major problems to any other GPL-compatible work that would like to > reuse your work (in any way that creates a derivative work). > Creating barriers across the

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
for artwork. I would say "please, don't do that". The Free Art License could even be judged DFSG-free (we don't know by now, as there is not yet a clear consensus...), but it doesn't seem to be a well worded license. And it's clearly a GPL-incompatible license (being

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-12 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
The work of art: A communal work which includes the initial oeuvre as well as all m-w.com defines oeuvre (a word I'd never heard before...) as "a substantial body of work constituting the lifework of a writer, an artist, or a composer." I don't think that's the right word. The Original (th

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-10 Thread Kai Blin
* Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09/09/04, 13:31:40]: > It's very poorly worded; the body of the "clause" is "All the elements > of this work of art must remain free", which is vague and meaningless. > The rest isn't written as a restriction at all, but as a strange conclusion > from the vagu

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-10 Thread Kai Blin
* Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09/09/04, 05:03:24]: > Is there a particular work under this license that you would like Debian > to include, or do you just want a review of the license? I wanted a review of the license as we're considering switching the package sear-media and another media

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Patrick Herzig
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:31:40 -0400, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 05:03:24AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: (...) > > > 4. Your Author's Rights > > > > > > The object of this license is not to deny your author's rights on your > > > contribution. By choosing to cont

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josh Triplett: >> 3. Incorporation of Artwork >> >> All the elements of this work of art must remain free, which is why you >> are not allowed to integrate the originals (originals and subsequents) >> into another work which would not be subject to this license. > > This is a standard copyleft

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 05:03:24AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > The author or the artist of the initial work of art: > > This is the person who created the work which is at the heart of the > > ramifications of this modified work of art. These definitions belong in an art textbook, not a licens

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
IMHO, looks like a free software, copyleft license. Any other thoughts out there? -Joe -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Josh Triplett
> Free Art license > [ Copyleft Attitude ] > > version 1.2 > > Preamble: [snipped; no license terms] > Definitions > > The work of art: > A communal work which includes the initial oeuvre as well as all > subsequent contributions (subsequent originals an

Re: Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Kai Blin wrote: > I'm writing to ask if the Free Art License would be considered Free by > the debian free software guidelines. > > The text of the license can be found at > http://artlibre.org/licence.php/lalgb.html Here is the text of the license, for easy quoting and comm

Free Art License

2004-09-09 Thread Kai Blin
Hi folks, I'm writing to ask if the Free Art License would be considered Free by the debian free software guidelines. The text of the license can be found at http://artlibre.org/licence.php/lalgb.html Cheers, Kai -- Kai Blin aka. nowhere (blingmx.net), WorldForge Project Web:

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:29:49AM -0500, David B Harris wrote: > However, Part 2.1 is a serious concern. "You have the right to copy this > work of art of your personal use, for your friends or any other person, > by employing whatever technique you choose." Reading the original > French, this is

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
; game's original authors (who hold copyright) have not yet picked a > license for the large quantity of data that goes along side the game > (recorded voices, ship and planet graphics, scripts for the dialog, etc). > One license that was recently proposed was the Free Art License:

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 03:08:03AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Part of 2.2: > - specify to the recipient where he will be able to access > the originals (initial and subsequent). The author of the > original may, if he wishes, give you the right to broadcast / > distribute the

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread David B Harris
On 14 Dec 2002 03:08:03 -0500 Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Part 8, I'm sure, will cause problems - it has in the past, but I > > can't remember in what context; it may just be that some zealots > > made some hubub a while back that. I don't really recall. > > I can't manage to

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 02:29, David B Harris wrote: > I don't believe part 7 is saying anything additional to what copyright > law already says; the original author still holds the copyright, even if > you got the data from friend who got the data from a sister who got the > data from an aunt who g

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:51:59 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven Barker) wrote: > I'd like the advice of this list as to whether data under that license > would be DFSG free. I think the license is a pretty straightforward > copyleft, though at least the translated version has some unclear > language.

the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steven Barker
t picked a license for the large quantity of data that goes along side the game (recorded voices, ship and planet graphics, scripts for the dialog, etc). One license that was recently proposed was the Free Art License: http://www.artlibre.org/ for the original French version, http://artlibre.org/l