Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/19/06, olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > http://www.terekhov.de/Wallace_v_Red_Hat_2nd_ANSWER.pdf > > > > There is no judgement at all in this document which is resume only the > arguments of D. Wallace. This court has dismissed D. Wallace on the > basis of similar arguments in the doc

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-19 Thread olive
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/18/06, olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the following links might interest you. Yeah. All complain about the GPL are dismissed one after the other. http://hearsay.com/wp-hdcarchives/cases/wallace_v_fsf-28nov2005.pdf Here the judge rejected a numb

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 18 Feb 2006 12:43:51 -0500, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Unfortunately, the dismissal is not yet final and many of the recent > filings[1] are not (easily?) available online. Re: Wither Wallace? by: day5done10/12/05 11:03 am GPL supporters such as Tuxrocks and

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/18/06, olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the following links might interest you. Yeah. > All complain about the GPL are dismissed one after the other. > > http://hearsay.com/wp-hdcarchives/cases/wallace_v_fsf-28nov2005.pdf Here the judge rejected a number of the arguments of the Fr

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Poole
olive writes: > I think the following links might interest you. All complain about the > GPL are dismissed one after the other. > > http://hearsay.com/wp-hdcarchives/cases/wallace_v_fsf-28nov2005.pdf > http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/168985.htm Unfortunately, the dismissal is not yet final an

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-18 Thread olive
I think the following links might interest you. All complain about the GPL are dismissed one after the other. http://hearsay.com/wp-hdcarchives/cases/wallace_v_fsf-28nov2005.pdf http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/168985.htm Olive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > It is reproached that a German court apply German law (?!?). A Germanian > bring a lawsuit in Germany for infrigment of a license he have choosen. > It is obvious that German laws will apply. It's far from obvious unless the license specifies th

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Are you really educated in (some) law? > > Check for yourself. > http://www.fundp.ac.be/universite/personnes/page_view/01005395/ > Sorry it's in french (the website has just been revamped), but I guess > you'll get the gist of it. A hint:

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread olive
More serious and higher ranked folks have also spoken. Like Appellate Judge (and etc.) Hoeren. http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/resources/feedback/OIIFB_GPL3_20040903.pdf I am not a lawyer and I cannot comment on every objection. But there are arguments that obviously seeems flawed and I am very susp

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread olive
Germany hasn't done anything, at least nothing is described in this article. A particular german court has spoken. Yes a court has spoken and has made an injonction to follow the GPL. German courts follow German law... "Germany" cannot declare the GPL in any other way. Olive -- To UN

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > >> On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] > >> > >>>First off, hello. > >> Hello Yorick. > >> What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trou

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread olive
Frank Küster wrote: olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] First off, hello. Hello Yorick. What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/t

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread Yorick Cool
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 05:36:55PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > >> On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] > >> > >>>First off, hello. > >> Hello Yorick. > >> What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL be

Re: EU antitrust is also cool

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Küster
olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Terekhov wrote: >> On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] >> >>>First off, hello. >> Hello Yorick. >> What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re >> http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/treaties/

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Yorick Cool
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:23:33PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > On 2/15/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:28:22AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > > On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Assuming you mean the FSF and

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread olive
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] First off, hello. Hello Yorick. What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/treaties/ec/art81_en.html? Germany (which part of the EU

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Ville Oksanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dr. Mikko Välimäki has a quite nice article on the topic: > > Mikko Välimäki: Copyleft Licensing and EC Competition Law, forthcoming > in European Competition Law Review 3/2006 > http://www.valimaki.com/org/open_source_competition.pdf Tha

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Ville Oksanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dr. Mikko Välimäki has a quite nice article on the topic: > > Mikko Välimäki: Copyleft Licensing and EC Competition Law, forthcoming > in European Competition Law Review 3/2006 > http://www.valimaki.com/org/open_source_competition.pdf day

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:28:22AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > Assuming you mean the FSF and/or GNU project, with whom are they > > > entering onto agreement? Mmmmh? > >

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Yorick Cool
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:28:22AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Assuming you mean the FSF and/or GNU project, with whom are they > > entering onto agreement? Mmmmh? > > I mean the GPL license. The GPL is a text, not an undertaki

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Ville Oksanen
Dr. Mikko Välimäki has a quite nice article on the topic: Mikko Välimäki: Copyleft Licensing and EC Competition Law, forthcoming in European Competition Law Review 3/2006 http://www.valimaki.com/org/open_source_competition.pdf Greets, Ville Oksanen Researcher, Helsinki University of Technol

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Assuming you mean the FSF and/or GNU project, with whom are they > entering onto agreement? Mmmmh? I mean the GPL license. > > Also, please have a look at 81 § 3. I did it. Now you please take a look at http://europa.eu.int/scadplus/le

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/14/06, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re > > http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/treaties/ec/art81_en.html? > First of all, the GPL clearly qualifies f

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-14 Thread Yorick Cool
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 05:17:25PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > First off, hello. > > Hello Yorick. > > What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re > http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/trea

Re: EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re > http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/treaties/ec/art81_en.html? First of all, the GPL clearly qualifies for the paragraph 3 exception, because is "promoting technical o

EU antitrust is also cool (was: A new practical problem...)

2006-02-14 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/14/06, Yorick Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > First off, hello. Hello Yorick. What is your educated opinion regarding the GPL being in trouble re http://europa.eu.int/comm/competition/legislation/treaties/ec/art81_en.html? TIA. regards, alexander. -- http://www.terekhov.de/Wallace