Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Eric Dorland wrote: > * Ben Goodger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Eric Dorland wrote: >> >> >Hi Ben, >> > >> > >> Hi Eric, >> >> I'm replying to this including our QA person, Asa Dotzler who is >> interested in these matters. > [snip] >> >> Asa will comment more here. >> >> >The other issue t

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-04 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Just a reminder] > > While we are here talking about the Mozilla Firefox case, don't forget > Debian distributes Mozilla and Mozilla Thunderbird as well, in the > same conditions. > > Mike I would be interested to see a comparison of the Mozilla trademar

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-04 Thread Mike Hommey
[Just a reminder] While we are here talking about the Mozilla Firefox case, don't forget Debian distributes Mozilla and Mozilla Thunderbird as well, in the same conditions. Mike

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > On that theme, I think it's worth distinguishing between trademark and > copyright licenses -- the icon is distributable if its copyright > license is OK, but the trademark license is needed to make the graphic > the default ic

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Eric Dorland
Doug basically pointed out where you can find the information you wanted. Let me just respond to a few things you said: * Asa Dotzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Before we're willing to sanction the distribution of a modified version > of Firefox under our trademark name and logo, we need to kno

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, Ben Goodger wrote: >> Does DFSG imply that anyone can modify and use the Firefox artwork >> for any purpose? If so, then we have additional issues. > > Yes, in general. > > You can require that they indicate that they have modified t

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, Asa Dotzler wrote: > Before we're willing to sanction the distribution of a modified > version of Firefox under our trademark name and logo, we need to > know what those changes are, specifically. While I can't speak for Eric specifically, in general, the changeset for a packa

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, Ben Goodger wrote: > Does DFSG imply that anyone can modify and use the Firefox artwork > for any purpose? If so, then we have additional issues. Yes, in general. You can require that they indicate that they have modified the artwork, and you may be able to restrict confusin

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Eric Dorland
* Ben Goodger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eric Dorland wrote: > > >Hi Ben, > > > > > Hi Eric, > > I'm replying to this including our QA person, Asa Dotzler who is > interested in these matters. [snip] > > Asa will comment more here. > > >The other issue that came up was that of the Firefox a

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Asa Dotzler
Ben Goodger wrote: Eric Dorland wrote: Hi Ben, Hi Eric, I'm replying to this including our QA person, Asa Dotzler who is interested in these matters. You probably don't know me, so let me introduce myself: I'm the Firefox maintainer in Debian. I'm contacting you because of the issue o

Re: Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Ben Goodger
Eric Dorland wrote: Hi Ben, Hi Eric, I'm replying to this including our QA person, Asa Dotzler who is interested in these matters. You probably don't know me, so let me introduce myself: I'm the Firefox maintainer in Debian. I'm contacting you because of the issue of the Firefox tradema

Debian & the Mozilla Firefox Trademarks

2004-03-01 Thread Eric Dorland
Hi Ben, You probably don't know me, so let me introduce myself: I'm the Firefox maintainer in Debian. I'm contacting you because of the issue of the Firefox trademarks, both on the name and the artwork. Looking at your licensing and trademark page (http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/licensing.html)