Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-10 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Hi, Il 09/08/19 00:39, Zenaan Harkness ha scritto: > Pure hogwash. And a negative averment seeking "tacit support by non > response" to boot - devious I tell ya, devious! :) I am not really sure why all these trivia about Uber should have anything to do with the VeraCrypt relicensing, but I admir

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 09:54:05PM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Il 07/08/19 14:29, Zenaan Harkness ha scritto: > > > Corporations use tacit consent regularly too - Uber gets going in a > > new city, and they assume the right to operate in the face of the > > existing laws about Taxi cabs et

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-08 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Hi, Il 07/08/19 14:29, Zenaan Harkness ha scritto: >>> That's not the way this stuff works. You have to assume objection >>> UNTIL given permission. > > So you say. Your saying so does not make it true. So says the law, as far as I know. Most copyright laws work by asserting that the author of

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:23:37PM +0200, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > * On 8/7/19 9:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > In the interests of having Veracrypt be distributable by Debian, > > all Veracrypt code must be licensed accordingly. > > > > This can be done by public notice (see below). > > Re-lic

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:26:35PM +0200, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > * On 8/7/19 12:58 PM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > > Agreed. There is no way to obtain tacit permission for anything except > > what the copyright holder has already declared (except for copyright > > expiration, but that takes veeer

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:58:16PM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Hi, > > Il 07/08/19 12:23, Mihai Moldovan ha scritto: > >> - include in the announcement that any party objecting must contact > >>the developers at BLAH (email list address, or list of developer > >>email addresses)

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 8/7/19 12:58 PM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Agreed. There is no way to obtain tacit permission for anything except > what the copyright holder has already declared (except for copyright > expiration, but that takes veeery long). In order to relicense, explicit > permission must be given by e

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Hi, Il 07/08/19 12:23, Mihai Moldovan ha scritto: >> - include in the announcement that any party objecting must contact >>the developers at BLAH (email list address, or list of developer >>email addresses) > That's not the way this stuff works. You have to assume objection UNTIL given >

Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 8/7/19 9:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > In the interests of having Veracrypt be distributable by Debian, > all Veracrypt code must be licensed accordingly. > > This can be done by public notice (see below). Re-licensing can be a difficult, lengthy process and - as far as I've seen in the on

[z...@freedbms.net: Veracrypt license - how to change it]

2019-08-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
My other email addy is still banned for life from all debian lists it seems, so forwarding the below as it may be of interest to some. Regards, Zenaan - Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness - From: Zenaan Harkness To: ste...@mxlinux.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org Cc: CypherPunks