modify.
While I agree that the license would do with some better wording
everywhere, I am not sure I agree here.
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under a free license, and it is the software which has to be DFSG
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The package is in the non-free section of Debian.
To understand what that means, please read
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In otherwords, it is up to you to decide, after reading the license,
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Soumyadip Modak said on Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:08:41AM +0530,:
> As far as I remember, I received a mail from the original
> developers of RacOtf who claim it is GPL-ed. I'll hunt up the mail
> and forward it. I plan to include it in the next big upgrade of
> ttf-indic-fonts (I
enforce your `right'
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Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Glenn Maynard wrote:
>>(I'm not sure, however, if "resides" is a legally meaningful term, when
>>the defendant isn't an individual.)
> Good question.
>
> In the US, if I remember correctly, clauses refering to the
> "residence" of corporations general
ree if, for
example, it includes a procedure which implemnts an actively enforced
patent; or depends on a non-free software (eg. for compliation).
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> algorithms deployed before this date.
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> Also in what section would this software go: main, non-free?
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disciplinary action) is going to reach the critical mass
> pretty soon. So he might want to slowdown a bit.
Hmm.. another SCO in the making.
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SF is one of the
copyright holders in the collective work called the linux kernel.
BTW, if you have problems with statements made by Eben Moglen, you
might be better off clarifying things with him direct rather than on
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Alexander Terekhov said on Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:27:27PM +0100,:
> And I'm still not in prison. How come?
1. You have some kind of understanding with the copyright holder of
the program in question.
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unt down the url from where the sources are available. Include
URIs to both the binary and source in (preferably the same as in above
para) file on the cd. This should reduce the burden of requests for
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Would be a nice thing if the software is made available on your
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Mahesh T. Pai said on Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:30:01PM +0530,:
> I am filing a bug...
No. 322147 with a patch
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from obli
epted
> such things before.
I'm hardly 18 months on this list.
> their software is not trying to get into debian). The only case
> when it is useful is if this list is asked for comments on a draft,
> usually with some particular software for debian in mind.
Certainly yes
ork. Even if the new work is only depending on the QPL'ed
software. It need not be even a derivative.
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> free license.]
Whew!!! An articulation, finally.
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Freedom is my birth right.
s solely under the QPL, it cannot be
in main, will some situation arise where application X, also solely
under QPL can be in main?
OTOH, how can we say that libcwd cannot be in main without deciding
whether its license is DFSG compliant or not?
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y, but are Amsterdam and Oslo same?
Hope we are discussing the same document.
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ll I re-read what I wrote on fsug-kochi.
The message is at
http://puggy.symonds.net/pipermail/fsug-kochi-discuss/2004-June/001030.html
I missed a `not' after the first `we' there. (shrugs at the typo devils)
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സ്വാതന്
roving licenses simply because the non DFSG freeness arises from
patents which are not enforced is a bad precedent.
What if Nokia releases something under the MPL?
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Nathanael Nerode said on Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:20:11PM -0400,:
> unfortunately it's not clear yet whether that's GPL-compatible;
> eventually some version of the Apache license should be though.
Apache says ASL 2.0 is GPL compatible, FSF says it is not.
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unilateral grant. WHich is what GPL does.
> Heck, you can mail RMS your signed agreement
Yes. Your ISP/department of posts / courier will be richer. No other
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(and there are others too).
And decided that we can continue with Mozilla coz. it is dual
licensed under GPL/LGPL.
> Oh, wouldn't life be easy if everyone would just use the GPL or BSD license
> and all these variations would just disappear.
Freedom comes at a price!!!
-
to take care of?
Cannot be included, not even in non-free, IMHO. Will violate DFSG #8.
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LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law.
driver patch (INSTALL and
README.ipw2100).
If you do not agree to the terms of this license, you may not download or use
the firmware.
Last Updated: May 10 2004
(/end license page)
The `I Agree" in `If you agree to the terms of this license, click I
Agree to indicate' is a link to
Andreas Barth said on Wed, May 12, 2004 at 11:15:06AM +0200,:
> For me, I want the LGPL for a very simple reason on this web page:
> It's quite often used (even so often that it is stored in
> /usr/share/common-licenses), and I think that on our web page we
> should not only hav
hoice in
> a free licence.
Oh. I was oblivious to this aspect.
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> non-free.
1. GFDL does not prevent what you think it prevents.
2. In preventing people from doing certain things, GFDL works in the
same way almost all copyleft licenses (like the GPL) do.
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> This is worrying, but not insurmountable.
Yes. And somebody tells me that there was a meeting of this committee
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is not aware
of this committee, (2) he sees no problem with the GFDL. Obviously,
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and/or the Improvements shall contain
> provisions that reflect the provisions of this Agreement with any
> changes necessary to give the arrangements efficacy.
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protect a computer
program
That is the US of A's DMCA through backdoor.
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? Even if by M$?
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edits should be displayed?
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Mahesh T. Pai said on Sat, May 01, 2004 at 10:01:44AM +0530,:
> > debian-legal: Have there been any new conclusions about the
> > Official Use logo that I'm forgetting, or should a bug be filed
> > against desktop-base?
>
> IIRC, discussion on t
cluded somewhere in
there.
Ps:-
I am not a DD.
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I am not sure though. Groklaw is discussing forgent.
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does not require it to be `accepted'. The policy of certain
package installation software, (typically on non-free platforms)
insisting on the display of licenses (even in case of the GPL) and
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large number of users switching to other hardware might persuade
hardware vendors to be sensible and open up the specs.
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gal-200310/msg00317.html
or here:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200310/msg00311.html
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; material or not?
IMHO, no.
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s to specific provisions
of DFSG. (better examples might be available).
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ommunity
License" or "ACL". If not, contact the author of this library
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t;? Were "public licenses" common?
A license, issued to all members of the /public/ in /general/.
HTH, and correct me if I am wrong.
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t (non
US) countries would be the same.
It is likely that the law in countries Henning was referring to is
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Again, different countries may treat this differently.
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ith it. Such an
issue has not arisen on the license-discuss list so far (AFAIK), But I
doubt if the `OSI approved' stamp will be revoked once granted. Not so
with the `main' status in the Debian ftp archives.
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he link mentioned in the
Halloween IX docs on SCO revealed the above link. (see the comments
about para 111, the part about IBM not releasing code without an IP
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www.fsf.org/press/mysql-affidavit.html,
paragraph 18. The important words are '...actually _subtracts_ from
the author's usual " and "... unilaterally permitted ..."
After that, do proceed to read the concluding sentence of para 36.
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not a license to the derivative works. So, #2 above is a bit off the
mark.
Hope that clears things up.
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Brian M. Carlson said on Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:39:29AM +,:
> I'm not sure that this is even legal, at least in the US.
Will you please clarify why??
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;ve misinterpreted the GPL,
Yes. And as SCO v. IBM shows, you are not the only one to do that.
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be included
> on any copy.
May be rewritten as:-
"This software may be copied, and distributed, with or without
modifications; but this notice must be included on any copy."
To make it DFSG free.
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GFDl'ed docs with invariant sections named something like GFDL-doc or
doc-semifree (or whatever - nonfree is harsh and unwarranted term).
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e-discuss list; but do not recall any
discussion there on the lines of 'forced redistribution is not free'.
The archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
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