Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-12 Thread Joe Buck
Anthony DeRobertis writes: > I believe there are essentially two reconciliations we can have for each > problem listed in the position statement [2]: Either "that does not make > things non-free" or "that is not the intended reading of the license, > stop nit-picking so much." For the "DRM" restri

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-18 Thread Joe Buck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:35:55AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > Moglen is a liar. And Stallman too. *plonk* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-17 Thread Joe Buck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:34:24AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > On 1/18/06, Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/18/06, Joe Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:48:11AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > >

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-17 Thread Joe Buck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:48:11AM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > Care to post a link to rules of New York? It's not up to me. You charged Moglen with offenses, you back it up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-17 Thread Joe Buck
Glenn Maynard wrote: > I think you're the third person to say something along those lines: "be > thankful, it could be a lot worse". It's still endorsing an extremely > onerous class of restriction, implying that it's acceptable, helpful, > and that the classes of application screwed over by it is

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-17 Thread Joe Buck
On 1/17/06, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Eben had a really humorous explanation, which I will attempt to > paraphrase from my (impressively imperfect) memory: > >No lawyer knows exactly why we have been shouting at eachother for >the past 50(?) years; but since everyone

Re: Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-01-16 Thread Joe Buck
From: "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Where did the "unless that component itself accompanies the > executable" go? Is it somewhere else? It has been eliminated, intentionally. The rationale is to make things like Debian GNU/Solaris legal (currently a distribution can't contain both the

Re: Clarifying non-free parts of the GNU FDL

2004-09-29 Thread Joe Buck
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 09:21:43PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Joe Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Side issue #1: even a GFDL with exceptions is still going to be GPL > > incompatible. True, but that's also the case for several other > > licenses t

Re: Clarifying non-free parts of the GNU FDL

2004-09-28 Thread Joe Buck
I'm pleased to see that documentation writers are trying to figure out a way to clean up some issues with the GNU FDL. It seems, though, that some of the commenters are getting sidetracked by side issues. Side issue #1: even a GFDL with exceptions is still going to be GPL incompatible. True, bu

Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-31 Thread Joe Buck
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:30:56PM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote: > In my personal opinion, the "moral rights" idea is very disturbing. I > know it has its defenders, ... The issue is not whether it's right or wrong. It's more fundamental than that. The DFSG were originally designed for software;

Re: Re: CCPL-by

2004-03-30 Thread Joe Buck
Jeremy Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not clear what "the extent practicable" means here, but it sounds > like you may be required to purge the authors name/etc. from the work if > the author asks you to. That sounds like another non-free point. Careful. Is Debian attempting to push

Re: Re: Decision GFDL

2003-08-27 Thread Joe Buck
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 08:48:17PM +0200, Wouter Vanden Hove wrote: > Where can I find the actual Debian-decision on the GNU Free > Documentation License? Branden Robinson writes: > There has been no formal statement issued by the developers, but Debian > seldom bothers with such things. We go y