Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-27 Thread Florian Lohoff
Debian, this discussion has been pointless since > its start. Which results in me not be willing to donate anymore resources to the debian project, in manpower, network traffic etc. Thanks for your patience in discussing probably open points. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
ot appear in the Country Chart in part 738 of the EAR, nor are they reflected in the Commerce Control List in part 774 of the EAR. Ok - So a reexport from Germany to Cuba for software coming in from the US need a US License. Which was what i implicitly always assumed. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Nine nineth on september the 9th Welcome to the new billenium pgpqexQ4o3fv0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
ossible against a very important part of Debian the package pool and its automatic distribution to mirrors. The other thing - What about the usage restriction ? Why does noone comment on that. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Nine nineth

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
ages maintained by US citizens. If thats the case why is there no need to have the export regulation notice on the non-us mirrors today ? > involved, both for being easier for the Feds to get ahold of, and for > playing a larger role in the actual export... Flo -- Florian Lohoff

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
only applys to civil usage but not once someone uses debian to produce chemical missiles. We just accept the usage restrictions as most people think that THIS restriction is ok. I thought that free in the DFSG did not mean "Free as long as it fits the majoritys moral opinion". Flo -- Flo

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
the export of open source cryptographic software under License Exception TSU to ... (3) design, development, stockpiling, production or use of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons or missiles." Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Nine nineth on s

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
dard" of blocking access to the T7 countries will be held responsible when entering the US and/or the one actually putting the software in question into the archive will be held responsible as soon as there is knowledge of the multi-step export. Flo -- Florian Lohoff

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
the rest of the mail isn't relevant to you)." DPL got life sentence for Isreali hacker bringing CDs to Lybia. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Nine nineth on september the 9th Welcome to the new billenium pgpZrkEMVP2Ku.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 07:02:19PM +, James Troup wrote: > Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > > What Florian (conveniently?) cut here is the part that said: > > "For mirrors outside the United States there should be no new > lega

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-02-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
where we dont have any govermental force on us. In the end only code matters. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Nine nineth on september the 9th Welcome to the new billenium pgpSbPDLRrKPP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: request

2001-05-05 Thread Florian Lohoff
the GPL whereas your contribution to a project is automatically set under the GPL. Why not doing the same for the list archive. Its a contribution to the Debian Project and IMHO we should treat it the same. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5201-669912 Why

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:25:50AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 05:45:05PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Read your quote: "License Must Not Contaminate Other Software" > > Excuse me, but what about that quote makes it illegal for a licen

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
own" can be very different as i think i have shown. But if noone else is willing or able to see that i just shut up. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots."

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 07:00:23PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 06:21:48PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > But THIS relation (Linked Against) is not really clear from the Terms > > in Par.9 - It says "distributed along" which KDE + QT2 would also

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
ke "distributed under the terms of this license" which is definitly a restriction to another program and though matches the contaminaton clause. Am just saying: "Hey - i see space for misinterpretation" and from my discussion on #debian.de nobody could clear this up and so i am ask

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
Terms in Par.9 - It says "distributed along" which KDE + QT2 would also be. IMHO the "distributed along" term does not clear the tightness/intense of the coupling (As none of the Programs debian distributes is unrelated to others - The relation COULD be the same medium) Flo

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 05:57:03PM +0200, Samuel Hocevar wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > The paragraph says "License Must NOT Contaminate Other Software". > > As Debian and the FSF agree that the GPL and QPL are incompatible > > and this

Re: DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 05:41:59PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 05:18:14PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > the DFSG Paragraph 9 says: > > > > 9. License Must Not Contaminate Other Software > > [...] > > A restrictio

DFSG Par. 9 and GPL "Virulogical" effekt

2000-04-22 Thread Florian Lohoff
shows the "Contamination" of QT from GPL based programs. Comments ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots."