Re: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Guilherme de Siqueira Pastore
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:13:25PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: > > OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated > > module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. > > This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth

Re: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 13, 2013 15:31, Walter Landry wrote: > "Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: >>> OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated >>> module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. >> >> This seems like a paper exercise which I

Re: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Walter Landry
"Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: >> OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated >> module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. > > This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth our efforts. > > I seems extremely unli

Re: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: > OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated > module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth our efforts. I seems extremely unlikely that the author of the software c

Re: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. O. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source f

Re: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source files > per se, it's just not permitted to use the "software" for Evil. Right. The non-free part of the archive is for such software. Debian main consists only of free software (

Re: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source files per se, it's just not permitted to use the "software" for Evil. And since we will not be using those source files, it seems to be ok to distribute them as part of upstream tarball. But IANAL... Ondrej On Mon, May 13, 2013 at

Re: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Would it be OK to distribute those source files ("no-evil") and not > use them to compile the extension? Source packages are part of main too and thus should not contain non-free stuff. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To U

Re: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hey, just to clarify. Would it be OK to distribute those source files ("no-evil") and not use them to compile the extension? Remi from Fedora has prepared patch on top of json-c, which will replace this extension, so I will patch those files away. I just want to avoid the dfsg-repacking if possi