Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 12/18/09, Ben Finney wrote: > Andrew Donnellan writes: > >> On 12/18/09, Ben Finney wrote: >> > I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an >> > owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different >> > monopoly right. Monopolies are held; that doesn't make th

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Andrew Donnellan writes: > On 12/18/09, Ben Finney wrote: > > I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an > > owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different > > monopoly right. Monopolies are held; that doesn't make the holder of > > a monopoly the “owner”

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 12/18/09, Ben Finney wrote: > I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an > owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different monopoly > right. Monopolies are held; that doesn't make the holder of a monopoly > the “owner” in a property sense. > > IANAL, but i

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Francesco Poli writes: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:00:48 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > > If it's copyright, it's proprietary. > > > > "proprietary" == "property". If it's copyright, it has an owner, > > therefore it's property, therefore it's proprietary. > > Your reasoning does not seem in

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:00:48 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <20091216233823.af491478@firenze.linux.it>, Francesco > Poli writes > >> The second question may seem strange, but why copyleft license is > >> used? > > > >Hopefully in order to prevent the distribution of proprietar

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Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Anthony! On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:34:27 +, "Anthony W. Youngman" wrote: >>In section 10 (GPLv3): >> >>10. Automatic Licensing of Downstream Recipients. >> >>Each time you convey a covered work, the recipient automatically >> receives a license from the original licensors, to run, m

Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:06:41 +0100 Andrew Dalke wrote: [...] > The best counter example > is the GFDL->Creative Commons relicensing, when the original GFDL's > license grant is essentially identical to the GPLs. Sorry, but I strongly disagree with your statement about the presumed "essential iden

Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Dalke wrote: > On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:41 AM, MJ Ray wrote: > > Maybe a proper citation instead of a bare URL > > would have helped avoid this confusion. (Line wraps would help too.) > > Since my first post, of which I think you are talking about, also > included the book title and author na

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Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20091217024135.af5a9f7...@nail.towers.org.uk>, MJ Ray writes Andrew Dalke wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > I can't be bothered to read the book, but if it's the book I think >it is, then I already have read it and came to the conclusion that >the au