Re: Search provider icons in web browsers

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:23:09AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Mike Hommey writes: > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > > [web browser search provider icons ma

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Paul Wise wrote: > According to the comments in one of the URLs in the initial mail in > this thread, the author of the facebook icon specifically created it > for pidgin-facebookchat, so I imagine they specifically licensed it > under the GPLv3 for pidgin-facebookchat folks. > > http://cubestuff.

Re: Search provider icons in web browsers

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey writes: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Mike Hommey writes: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > [web browser search provider icons made available by provider] > > > > http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications

Re: Search provider icons in web browsers (was: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages)

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch > > > protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search > > > prov

Search provider icons in web browsers (was: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages)

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey writes: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch > > protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search > > provider as “an image that can be used in association with this > > search c

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol, > and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search provider as “an > image that can be used in association with this search content” > http://www.opensearch.or

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
(Please don't send individual copies, we read them via the list) Mike Hommey writes: > For example, I have serious doubts about the freeness of the search > engine icons in iceweasel (the ones on the top right of the UI). Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol,

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> The pidgin-facebookchat icons seem free (GPLv3) though. > > Well, that's what they claim, but what is the real status ? A wild guess > is that most icons that are present in packages have been picked from > the web sites (or equivalent) thems

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:52:22PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one: > > Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox > > logo is not, whatever th

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one: > Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox > logo is not, whatever the trademark status is) The initial mail in this thread was about CC-

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:08:14PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Eion Robb writes: > > > > There's no “fair use” in trademark law AFAIK. > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trademark+law+fair+use&l=1 > > (Leads to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_(U.S._trademark_law)>) > > Okay, so it seems (according

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Ben Finney wrote: > This does, to my mind, permit using the mark to say ???this product > supports that other product and/or service???, and doesn't need the > trademark holder's permission. > > Whether other jurisdictions have a similar allowance, I don't know. To my knowledge this is a fairly c