Re: crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Niebur
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:08:16PM +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:13:48AM -0800, Ryan Niebur wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:39:45AM -0800, Michael Crawford wrote: > >>>It says "by Charlton Harrison" and he documented when the releases > >>>were on his websi

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:08:24 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Miriam Ruiz: > > > We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that > > users can filter out the ones they don't wont easily. I don't object > > to having AGPL in Debian, but I don't plan to install anything under

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread MJ Ray
I'll only comment on point 1, the use fee, because I think others have answered the other questions and found solutions for the problem. Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We do not think that this is a severe enough problem to restrict the > freeness of a work licensed using the AGPL. >

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miriam Ruiz: > We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that > users can filter out the ones they don't wont easily. I don't object > to having AGPL in Debian, but I don't plan to install anything under > that license in my system, and AFAIK there are other people in the

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Resource requirements have not traditionally been considered factors > in judging software freeness. > > But you are right that the AGPL (and perhaps the GPL version 3 as > well) fail my personal test for DRM-ness: A feature which, once added, > cann

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bernhard R. Link: > * Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081201 13:37]: >> * Bernhard R. Link: >> > And you think that once there will be hundreds of such renamed projects >> > of the same program which only have some patches that are not very >> > usefull for most people because of having to s

Re: AGPL and Debian

2008-12-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081201 13:37]: > * Bernhard R. Link: > > And you think that once there will be hundreds of such renamed projects > > of the same program which only have some patches that are not very > > usefull for most people because of having to specific solutions and no >

Re: crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:13:48AM -0800, Ryan Niebur wrote: >On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:39:45AM -0800, Michael Crawford wrote: >>>It says "by Charlton Harrison" and he documented when the releases >>>were on his website. From that could I just construct a copyright >>>notice and use that? >> >>My

Re: crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Mauro Lizaur
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008, Michael Crawford wrote: > > It says "by Charlton Harrison" and he documented when the releases > > were on his website. From that could I just construct a copyright > > notice and use that? > > My understanding is that "copyright descends on a work the instant it > is created

Re: gnome-mastermind trademark question

2008-12-02 Thread Filippo Argiolas
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/2 Hans de Goede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Ok, well in that case I'll pass I'm already bothering legal way too often >> with games related questions. > > It would be better to have a name upstream likes, but if the name

Re: gnome-mastermind trademark question

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Filippo Argiolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Miriam, probably you should forward them my last reply too. Yup, sorry, I wrote my email before yours. > As I said I'm open to a name change or a suggestion. > The game it's been in Debian for more than one year now and no one > ever complain

Re: gnome-mastermind trademark question

2008-12-02 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:20, Filippo Argiolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could have continued to ignore it but *I* choosed to resume this > issue because I'm a bit worried about it, so, please stop talking > about unilateral changes or things like that. Again, there has been a misunderstandi

Re: gnome-mastermind trademark question

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:49:34AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > It would be better to have a name upstream likes, but if the name is > not legally safe for Fedora, it won't be for Debian either and > ignoring the problem won't fix it. >From the limited context you've provided, there's nothing to in

Re: crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Niebur
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:39:45AM -0800, Michael Crawford wrote: > > It says "by Charlton Harrison" and he documented when the releases > > were on his website. From that could I just construct a copyright > > notice and use that? > > My understanding is that "copyright descends on a work the ins

Re: gnome-mastermind trademark question

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Hans de Goede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ok, well in that case I'll pass I'm already bothering legal way too often > with games related questions. It would be better to have a name upstream likes, but if the name is not legally safe for Fedora, it won't be for Debian either and ignoring the

Re: crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Crawford
> It says "by Charlton Harrison" and he documented when the releases > were on his website. From that could I just construct a copyright > notice and use that? My understanding is that "copyright descends on a work the instant it is created." So the release dates could reasonably serve to indicat

crip (lack of) copyright notice

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Niebur
Hi, Lintian is complaining to me because there isn't a "copyright notice" in the debian/copyright file. Looking through the source, there isn't a copyright notice for crip itself (there is for another included file, but that's from a different author and everything). It says "by Charlton Harrison