Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:03:04 +0200 Miriam Ruiz wrote: [...] > 4c) Through a public server, having to identify myself (thus, I > wouldn't be able to remain anonymous) The real problem would not be anonymity (which could be reached via technical measures: onion routing, anonymous remailers, nym serv

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:39:59 -0400 Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:00:58 +0200 > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > The problem is: > > what happens if the VCS goes off-line for one afternoon > > (or for one night, for a couple of days, for a week, ..., forever)? >

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2008/9/1 Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The AGPLv3 requires you to re-export that code in the event that you > modify server software using it -- even if exporting crypto is illegal > for you. This is not an issue. A license can't force you to do something that contradicts a higher law.

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > Miriam Ruiz writes ("Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?"): > > Do you think AGPLv3 is DFSG-free? > > Yes. The source-transmission requirement is hardly onerous, It's probably not onerous, but it's certainly non-trivial. The class of things that fall under Correspondin

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > 2008/9/1 Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The AGPLv3 requires you to re-export that code in the event that you > > modify server software using it -- even if exporting crypto is illegal > > for you. > > This is not an issue. A licens

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008, Arc Riley wrote: > As an American, I cannot export cryptographic software. As a result, > I don't work on it. > > That doesn't prevent me from building or modifying software that > utilizes those components, as those components are imported. You still have to arrange to conve

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
"Arc Riley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These are technical challenges, not legal problems, and will be solved by the > community as the need arises. I'd say in the next year or two free VCS > services will allow people to register new branches to existing projects. There is already a limited

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 01:49:38PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > 2008/9/1 Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The AGPLv3 requires you to re-export that code in the event that you > > modify server software using it -- even if exporting crypto is illegal > > for you. > This is not

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As an American, I cannot export cryptographic software. As a result, I > don't work on it. > > That doesn't prevent me from building or modifying software that utilizes > those components, as those components are imported. A

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, but they'll have your IP, which is (at least in my country) > personal information. In any case it is enough for someone to be able > to find you, so you won't be really anonymous. Think about China, for > example

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/9/1 Arc Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 2) Spam everyone I interact with, saying the client I'm using and how >> to get the full source code. > > The license does not say you must advertise, only that you "must prominently > offer". In your example of an IRC network, providing a source URL wit

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of the problems might be important anyway. I'll sum up my > personal concerns. Say I want to create a 3D virtual world based on > the IRC network, using PySoy as the base framework for that, PySoy > being AGPLv3 will f

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/9/1 Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > AGPLv3 may or may not be free, but as the discussion goes on I am > finding the arguments against it less credible as they seem to be > invoking 'problems' that are not really problems. Some of the problems might be important anyway. I'll sum up my

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:50:51 +0100 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the previously-available modified copy that you are using goes > offline, does one then have to post the source? > The same as with the GPL. If upstream disappears you have to stop distributing unless you provide the s

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:56:56 +0200 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:15:48 -0400 Arc Riley wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Francesco Poli > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > The problem is: > > > what happens if the VCS goes off-line for one aft

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:00:58 +0200 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:53:09 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > MJ Ray wrote: > > > Is there a generally-accepted statement from FSF that a free VCS > > > solution is sufficient, or is this interpretation only valid

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