Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/09/07 16:34, Francesco Poli wrote: > Drafting and actively promoting licenses that forbid commercial use > and/or modifications harms the free software movement, rather than > helping it. That hasn't always worked out to be the case in my experience. Books and documentation are a common one

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:08:48 -0600 Terry Hancock wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > >>The CC lawyers are trying to draft a generic, useful and good > >license. > > > > Useful to *whom*? > > Useful to end users and to the community (and hence to the society)? > > Or rather useful to authors that are

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/09/07 12:13, MJ Ray wrote: > I've no idea about CC's lawyers. They seemed very uncommunicative and I'd speculate that they seemed that way on the threads I saw because they probably were only interested in legal arguments and lots of the conversation was about the philosophy. So they proba

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:14:05 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 01:34:53AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > > > Hence, I don't know what the lawyers are looking for, but a license > > that grants too few permissions is not OK to me, even if it does so > > in a legally perfec

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Terry Hancock
Francesco Poli wrote: >>The CC lawyers are trying to draft a generic, useful and good license. > > Useful to *whom*? > Useful to end users and to the community (and hence to the society)? > Or rather useful to authors that are not willing to grant important > freedoms to recipients of their works?

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: > Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >>It seems to me the CC is written with the same kind of mentality and >>intentions that the DFSG was written. [...] > > Hardly. CC fans seem to see nothing wrong with discriminating against any > field of endeavour, such as commerce or t