Re: RFS: tvbrowser -- TV-Browser is a java-based TV guide

2005-08-07 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Bas Wijnen wrote: [...] > I very much value (in GNU's words) "The freedom to study how the program > works, and adapt it to your needs". Therefore none of my sources.lists have > contrib in them. I don't want to use a program, just to find that I cannot > reasonably modify it when I feel the need

Re: RFS: tvbrowser -- TV-Browser is a java-based TV guide

2005-08-07 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hi, While completely off-topic (at least for -mentors), I still feel the need to respond to this. The DFSG defines what free software is. An important freedom (IMO) is #3, the freedom to modify the program and distribute modifications. However, this freedom is pretty useless (to people who want

Re: zsnes belonging to main instead of contrib

2005-08-07 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 8/7/05, Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the case of zsnes its practical function is to emulate a SNES > console, with all its hardware. It supports this completely without any > non-free data. It's only that most data for practical use is non-free. > > Take Wine. It emulates the W

Re: zsnes belonging to main instead of contrib

2005-08-07 Thread Philipp Kern
Henning Makholm wrote: A program in main must not only be able to run and avoid crashing without non-free (or hypothetical) support data; it must also at least be able to perform to a reasonable degree whatever is its main practical function. A set of dummy data whose only practical function is t

Re: zsnes belonging to main instead of contrib

2005-08-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 06:07:19PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: >> I still disagree as zsnes does not *require* non-free ROMs. One could >> write a free ROM, and one presenting the Debian logo is provided. It >> does not depend on any non-free syste

Re: Origins of debian "swirl" / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm wrote: >> it might be argued that by making the swirl blue and turning it >> such that it invokes an the idea of an "e", it is not anymore >> sufficiently confusable with Debian's logo that the trademark is >> violated. > You don't t

Re: Origins of debian "swirl" / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-07 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Henning Makholm wrote: > > >>>On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine that the Elektrostore >>>swirl is independently created starting from a straight brush stroke. > > >>Now, Debian really ought to be complaining