Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Michael K. Edwards wrote: Do you know whether the NSS implementation is being certified at source code level (a very unusual arrangement) using the sort of maneuvers mentioned in the Linux Journal article on DMLSS? I'm not able to say - it's not my area. If you are interested, news://news.mozi

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Re: CS00003271 - Please review your case update - (Assigned)

2005-06-06 Thread Horms
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:52:41AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:03 +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 02:14:02PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:24:27 -0700, NIC Technology Support wrote: > > > > > > > Below is a response to your ca

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/6/05, Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whoops, I misattributed that message. It's Brett Glass who wrote > that, NOT Theo de Raadt. :-( And after Googling Brett Glass briefly, I doubt he has much concrete evidence to back up his claim that RMS plagiarized Symbolics code. If h

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/6/05, Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P. S. If you think that an FSF vendetta against OpenSSL would be an > anomaly, or that RMS is purist about copyright law when it comes to > his own conduct, you might be interested in Theo de Raadt's comments > at http://www.monkey.org/ope

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/6/05, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The implementation of SSL in the Netscape NSS libraries is available > under the GPL, and I believe certain versions of it have FIPS validation. > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/fips/ I'm delighted to hear that. It does not

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Michael K. Edwards wrote: Pity the MySQL folks; Progress Software were the ones who encouraged them to switch to the GPL in the first place, and when that relationship went bad, they fell right in with the FSF. Switching to YaSSL is going to cost them when it comes to DoD use of MySQL, since som

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
And while we're at it, if you're curious what Eben Moglen gets out of his relationship to the FSF, you might like to read http://www.vidomi.com/fsfpop.php . Evidently GPL "violators" retain him as counsel to write them letters saying that their linking-ban circumvention schemes qualify as "mere ag

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:24:51PM +0200, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > But would ever bring a lawsuit asserting copyright infringement? His successors might (perhaps especially if they happen to be eg. native to such a jurisdiction themselves). -- Glenn Maynard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
You might also observe the comments at http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=6924 and http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=8508 regarding MySQL's retreat, first from providing OpenSSL-enabled binaries, and then from referencing OpenSSL in the server source code. Any bets on whether there was a quid pro quo

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/6/05, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And I wouldn't like to see Debian swept up in the apparent FSF > > campaign to marginalize OpenSSL and its maintainers by threatening > > legal action against anyone who links GPL code (F

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Jeff King
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:24:51PM +0200, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > The Netherlands is one. Well, we do have a public domain, but it > only contains works that by law have no copyright and works whose > copyright has expired. So what's wrong with a license like: You may do anything with this w

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Jeff King
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:57:47PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > What's "the public domain" in the context of UK / European law? I don't know, as I am neither a lawyer nor a European. However, I assume there is some concept of a work which has passed out of copyright (due to time limitations)

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Simon Josefsson
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And I wouldn't like to see Debian swept up in the apparent FSF > campaign to marginalize OpenSSL and its maintainers by threatening > legal action against anyone who links GPL code (FSF copyrighted or > not) to OpenSSL. (I have not personally bee

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am probably wrong here, since I joined the list in the middle of the > > discussion, but can't you just put a notice at the top of the code like > > this? > > > > /* This code was written by and is hereby released into the > > publi

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Måns Rullgård
astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am probably wrong here, since I joined the list in the middle of the > discussion, but can't you just put a notice at the top of the code like > this? > > /* This code was written by and is hereby released into the > public domain */ There are supposedly

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:38:24PM -0400, astronut wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > Jeff King wrote: > > >The latter message is from me. I am looking for such a license, as I am > >trying to avoid ridiculous license propagation. My ideal license

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread astronut
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Jeff King wrote: >The latter message is from me. I am looking for such a license, as I am >trying to avoid ridiculous license propagation. My ideal license would >be in one of two forms: > - a common PD-ish license for whi

Re: CS00003271 - Please review your case update - (Assigned)

2005-06-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:03 +0900, Horms wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 02:14:02PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:24:27 -0700, NIC Technology Support wrote: > > > > > Below is a response to your case number CS3271 submitted to Broadcom > > > NIC Technology Support.

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Jeff King
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:33:43PM -0400, Anonymous wrote: > Perhaps I was not clear that I do not intend to use this licence. I have > noted that there have been at least ten requests for a licence that has for > all intents and purposes no restrictions. a public domain licence. I was > just o

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-06 Thread Anonymous
It is better you discuss this with opensource.org's licensediscuss list. They may suggest you another license which meets your needs without proliferation. Perhaps I was not clear that I do not intend to use this licence. I have noted that there have been at least ten requests for a li

Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-06 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
De: Steve Langasek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The phrase "For an executable work, complete source code means all > the source code for all modules it contains" appears in the text > of GPL section *3*, which is not specific to "works based on the > Program." Such lack of attention to license deta

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