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Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Patrick Herzig
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:11:17 -0400, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The german law referenced in the bug report seems to be a prohibition > on certain kinds of propaganda. It does not explicitly forbid the word > pair in question [though cultural context clearly makes some people > sensit

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 06:58:05PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > >Joey Hess is refusing to do anything about it. Please advise. > > This refusal is not on the bug report. Can you verify this? He refused to remove it in #169163. However, that bug report was "I find this offensive, take it out!", not "Th

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 01:45:10PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > Out of curiosity, how far does this extend? Would the same apply if > there was a "list-archive" set of packages in Debian, containing this > message ("Sieg Heil!"), or an "important-bug-report-archive", containing > the text of #277

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 07:24:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > please refer to #277794. One single line needs to be erased from the > package because otherwise, the package is unconstitutional in > Germany (and Austria). I consulted a lawyer about this. She says > that *theoretically*, a German

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 06:58:05PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > For other -legal contributors, this involves a comedy text filter > ("kraut" I think) which emits "Sieg Heil" in certain conditions. The obvious google search with the qualifier site:de seems to indicate that the presence of these two word

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-10-22 18:24:02 +0100 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: please refer to #277794. One single line needs to be erased from the package because otherwise, the package is unconstitutional in Germany (and Austria). [...] For other -legal contributors, this involves a comedy text fi

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.22.1943 +0200]: > I don't think Germany's laws about how to properly cover up > history can possibly make software non-free. I don't think it's a proper way to cover up history anyway. > I sympathize with the situation of German mirror

Re: a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
I don't think Germany's laws about how to properly cover up history can possibly make software non-free. I sympathize with the situation of German mirror-operators and developers, but it's not so much a matter of law as policy whether Debian will remove software from its archive to make some natio

a legal problem with 'filters' in germany

2004-10-22 Thread martin f krafft
Dear all, please refer to #277794. One single line needs to be erased from the package because otherwise, the package is unconstitutional in Germany (and Austria). I consulted a lawyer about this. She says that *theoretically*, a German mirror operator could get jail-time for this. No accusation m

Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:34:33AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Drivers do not require firmwares, hardware devices require firmwares. Well, actually, there are cases where the communication between firmware and driver is tight and both need each other, i.e driver won't work with another firmware a

Re: xchat is now shareware in windoze

2004-10-22 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> You're not considering all the cases. It is true that Debian's >> license to the original works persists. But we won't have a license >> to the derivative work, because the upstream author didn't

Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Firmwares do not run on the host CPU (they are /data/ for the host >> system) >Ah. You seem to be labouring under the misconception that non-program >data files aren't subject to the same rules for inclusion in main as >executable programs. That's an incorrect assumptio