Re: Helix Player under GPL (was Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance)

2004-08-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 12:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know what the dependencies are, or if there are any dependencies > that would prevent [the Helix Player] from being in main. Thomas, is enough > of the helix > player code GPL'd that we can include it in main, regardless of what we >

[Fwd: Re: httping license issues]

2004-08-06 Thread David Moreno Garza
Hello all, Some days ago I sent an email to the upstream author of httping (a GPL ping tool for HTTP request using OpenSSL) and I got this reply by him today. I got the package rejected from ftpmaster some time ago, that's way I wanted to explain a little bit all the GPL vs OpenSSL license issues

Re: Web application licenses

2004-08-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:15:38PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > Note, of course, that you only need to release the source to the work(s) > derived from a work under this license, which may not be everything > running on the kiosk. (Of course, you _should_, but you are not > _required_ to.) ... u

Re: Web application licenses

2004-08-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >>>Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> How about something vaguely like: """ If you make the software or a work based on the software available for direct use by anot

Helix Player under GPL (was Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance)

2004-08-06 Thread evan
So, this is a side-note about the Helix Player, not fully concerned with the RPSL per se. As I understand it, the Helix player (client side) has recently been dual-licensed under the GPL. There doesn't appear to be any way that the dual-licensing prevents users from exercising freedoms protected

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance

2004-08-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Rob Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 11:15, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> Rob Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 10:48, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >> Rob Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Let me get this straight. The f

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Walter Landry wrote: > Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >>>Josh Triplett writes: >>> With that in mind, what if we just amended the DFSG to include a statement at the top explicitly acknowledging the "Guidelines" interpretation, and pointing out tha

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance

2004-08-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Aug 4, 2004, at 17:00, Rob Lanphier wrote: >> * Use, modification, or distribution by parties that wish to bring >> patent lawsuits against us. > > If you want this to be a defensive-only clause, I think we (-legal) are > ok with that. We're generally less-ok with i

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance

2004-08-06 Thread Walter Landry
Rob Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * What do you want to prohibit? > > You'll need to read the license for that. However, tangible differences > between RPSL and GPL are noted below: > > * License-incompatible forking. Our business model is predicated on > dual-licensing of the source

Re: Suggestions of David Nusinow, was: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Walter Landry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040806 14:10]: > If there are people who disagree with the conclusions of debian-legal, > then they are free to discuss it on this mailing list. This has > happened numerous times. You seem to want to force people to care > about such issues. If they care, th

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance

2004-08-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Aug 4, 2004, at 17:00, Rob Lanphier wrote: Brandon, [You sent this to a public mailing list, debian-legal@lists.debian.org, so I assume you want replies from people other than Branden.] The process as it exists now is not at all unlike the IETF working group process. The main differ

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Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-06 Thread Walter Landry
Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Josh Triplett writes: > >>With that in mind, what if we just amended the DFSG to include a > >>statement at the top explicitly acknowledging the "Guidelines" > >>interpretation, and pointing out that the DFSG is not an exhaustive

Re: Suggestions of David Nusinow, was: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-06 Thread Walter Landry
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:39:01AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, David Nusinow wrote: > > > I echo his point that this probably needs to be justified. > > > > In all of the cases to date, where we've gone against the > > interpretat

Re: Re: Failure

2004-08-06 Thread Aktivitetskalender
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